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Windscreen Ticket on Private Road (Appeal to Parking & Property Rejected)

Hi Forum Members, I hope all are well given these challenging times!
The driver got a windscreen ticket on a private road at night time. The reason for the parking ticket was 'vehicle was parked on private property in a manner where the driver agreed to pay a parking charge as displayed by signage". They appealed to Parking & Property Management but the appeal was (unsurprisingly rejected). Response is attached. I understand that appealing to IAS is perhaps futile. Please advise on next steps. Much appreciated.

As you can see from attached photos, the signage is not lit and thus not visible at night. There is no way someone can read them.  
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  • Redx
    Redx Posts: 38,084 Forumite
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    edited 10 May 2021 at 3:59PM
    You answered your own question , it's either appeal to the IAS , or court within 6 years if you fail to appeal it lose the the appeal and fail to pay

    Read the newbies FAQ sticky thread near the top of the forum first

    Plan A is the best option , not appeal plans B & C ( you did B )
  • D_P_Dance
    D_P_Dance Posts: 11,593 Forumite
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    It also contains far too much tiny print, read this and complain to your MP.,

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5972164/parking-eye-signs-oxford-road-reading/p1
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • PeanutDad
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    @redx and @d_p_dance - thank you for your responses.
    I was not the driver and had advised that they follow plan A but for some strange reason they went ahead and appealed! OK will appeal to IAS. Thanks
  • PeanutDad
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    Appeal to IAS done on the basis of unlit and non legible signage.
  • KeithP
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    It is still not too late for you to follow plan A.
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 12 May 2021 at 1:27AM
    PeanutDad said:
    Appeal to IAS done on the basis of unlit and non legible signage.
    That's good as long as you uploaded the evidence.  Be prepared to keep replying and keep adding new comments about PPM's evidence, not just letting it go to what the IAS call 'adjudication' too quickly.
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  • PeanutDad
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    PeanutDad said:
    Appeal to IAS done on the basis of unlit and non legible signage.
    That's good as long as you uploaded the evidence.  Be prepared to keep replying and keep adding new comments about PPM's evidence, not just lettering it go to what the IAS call 'adjudication' too quickly.
    Thanks. Yes, I did upload the photos. Will do so as suggested. 
    PS. Would love you thoughts on my other thread about Warwick Uni :-)
  • PeanutDad
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    KeithP said:
    It is still not too late for you to follow plan A.
    Would you be kind enough to elaborate please?
  • KeithP
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    edited 12 May 2021 at 12:53AM
    PeanutDad said:
    KeithP said:
    It is still not too late for you to follow plan A.
    Would you be kind enough to elaborate please?
    You mentioned 'plan A' before I did, so I assumed you were au fait with it...
    PeanutDad said:
    I was not the driver and had advised that they follow plan A but for some strange reason they went ahead and appealed!
    ...and I responded to that post.

    But of course I am happy to elaborate.
    The first post of the NEWBIES thread includes...
  • D_P_Dance
    D_P_Dance Posts: 11,593 Forumite
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    I agree, eignage seems uunfit for purpose, read this,

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6242993/court-report-brentford-telephone-ukpc-roasted#latest

    Judges often throw out cases due to unsatisfactory signage.  Have you complained to your MP?
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
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