Subsitute scart connection on Humax freesat

flopsy1973

Hi 
Just bought a new humax freesat box but unfortunately new one does not come with scart socket as old one did. We have a X sender transmitter magic eye using a scart connection that plugs into old humax box that sends signal to the other tv upstairs. Could i plug this scart connection from transmitter into scart adapter if there is such a thing with red yellow and white video leads i can then plug these into the new humax box as it has these video connections. Will this work or does it have to be scart connection to get transmitter to work
many thanks

[Deleted User]

Possibly.

SCART is not a protocol as such but it can send a variety of video signals:

• Component (red/yellow/white leads)
• S-video
• RGB 

So you can get a component to SCART converter to take your component output from your new Freesat and send it along the SCART lead.

So it now depends on whether your X-Sender can receive component video through SCART - I don't know the specification of the model you have but that would be the next step to determine whether it is happy with component video through SCART and the resolution that the new box sends it at. If for example the new Freesat is sending 1080i/p through the component video but the X-Sender can only cope with 720p max then you might run into issues.

Finally the audio is the next thing, component video doesn't contain audio so you will need to feed that into your SCART convertor from the output of the new Freesat box - hopefully it has RCA audio connectors to do this.

Something like this with 5 RCA connectors would be needed - 3 video and 2 audio.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Loops-Component-YPbPr-Audio-Scart-Blue/dp/B0060HOY5O

flopsy1973

The freesaat is humax hdr1100 and only has 3 video leads so it won't work ? Is there any other way round it ? 

[Deleted User]

flopsy1973 said:

The freesaat is humax hdr1100 and only has 3 video leads so it won't work ? Is there any other way round it ? 

My apologies, I'm a bit rusty on legacy video tech but now I've seen the exact model number, I've just realised you have composite video output rather than component video - sorry should have realised!

Composite is red - right audio / white - left audio / yellow - already includes the audio.
Component would be red / green / blue connectors.

If this is the case, more likely everything will work with SCART - something like the below will be ok and would be worth a try:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Valueline-2-00-Switchable-SCART-Cable-Black/dp/B00JQG69J0/

https://www.amazon.co.uk/MainCore-SCART-Adapter-output-Switch-Black/dp/B079KQMYBS

My comment about the 720 / 1080 resolution compatibility might be an issue but for the price of the cable, probably worth a try.

Heedtheadvice

Nearly right , tallmansix! Itdepends upon the sex of the scart connector on the X sender!

The cable/you suggest might the wrong sex at the scart end (it depends upon the sex of the connector on the Xsender and whether the existing scart cable -if one is in use- has male or female ends!)

I would suggest a different item such as https://www.amazon.co.uk/KnnX-Switchable-female-adapter-connectors/dp/B0733DGQ42/ref=mp_s_a_1_7?dchild=1&keywords=rca+to+scart+female&qid=1620467319&sr=8-7 to cover all bases and purchase of a very cheap rca video x 2 audio cable for connection of that unit to the above (or similar ) converter.

 That should get it working for under a tenner.

Being composite video the picture standard will not matter.

ann_droid

Hi
Shortcut is (much the same as the previous post) ......
https://cpc.farnell.com/c/plugs/scart-plugs

Pin Name Description Signal Level Impedance

1 A O R Audio Out Right 0.5 V rms <1k ohm

2 A I R Audio In Right 0.5 V rms >10k ohm

3 A O L Audio Out Left + Mono 0.5 V rms <1k ohm

4 A GND Audio Ground

5 B GND RGB Blue Ground

6 A I L Audio In Left + Mono 0.5 V rms >10k ohm

7 B RGB Blue In 0.7 V 75 ohm

8 SWTCH Audio/RGB switch / 16:9 0-2 V=TV, 5-8 V=WideScreen, 9.5-12 V=AV Mode >10 kohm

9 G GND RGB Green Ground

10 CLKOUT Data 2: Clockpulse Out (Unavailable ??)

11 G RGB Green In 0.7 V 75 ohm

12 DATA Data 1: Data Out (Unavailable ??)

13 R GND RGB Red Ground

14 DATAGND Data Ground

15 R RGB Red In / Chrominance 0.7 V (Chrom.: 0.3 V burst) 75 ohm

16 BLNK Blanking Signal 1-3 V=RGB, 0-0.4 V=Composite 75 ohm

17 VGND Composite Video Ground

18 BLNKGND Blanking Signal Ground

19 VOUT Composite Video Out 1 V 75 ohm

20 VIN Composite Video In / Luminance 1 V 75 ohm

21 SHIELD Ground/Shield (Chassis)

flopsy1973

Thanks all for your suggestions I would need female adapter with connectors for the 3 leads for sat box

ann_droid

Hi
I'm guessing one of these....

CVGP31130BK20

AV27849 Data Sheet

SCART Male to 3x Phono (RCA) Male Lead, 2m Black UNBRANDED Switchable direction RCA to SCART male cable for connecting devices such as VCRs to TVs. • Switchable direction • Polybag packaging

Each

1+£1.71 (£2.05)5+£1.55 (£1.86)

Add Min: 1 Mult: 1

OR

PSG08687	CN21231 Data Sheet +	Scart Plug With SVHS And Phono Adaptor PRO SIGNAL The PSG08687 from Pro-Signal is a scart plug adaptor with input and output switch with RCA and SVHS sockets.		Each	1+£1.62 (£1.94)5+£1.44 (£1.73)	Add Min: 1 Mult: 1	-	-	-	-	-	-
							1

Heedtheadvice

Please do not guess ann_droid.

I have already pointed out that the sex of the connection might matter and flopsy has writ a female one is required. Your links are  to one male SCART connector (first on your list) and the second is female the same style of connector I posted ? That one I posted has both male and female connectors so might be more useful.

Costs.

Generally CPC is a good place to buy especially at the quoted price but if flopsy is only buying this low cost item (and a 3 way rca lead) then there will be VAT and  a handling charge too making a minimum (not including the rca lead) of £7.93. CPC quote "Please note that orders under £17.50 (ex VAT) will incur a small order handling charge of £4.99 (ex VAT)."

The Amazon one is more expensive but includes VAT and free delivery thus costing £7.49 if buying more stuff from Amazon to total £20. so as well as being more flexible it might be a better buy as I guess Amazon purchases might be more common for flopsy or Prime is used!

might be cheaper still from other sources.

Still under a tenner but Sex does matter sometimes

ann_droid

Hi
Well looking at the picture of the box 
AND guessing the the other was a standard scart, my two offerings were suitable.
However I do find this ......
""Could i plug this scart connection from transmitter into scart adapter if there is such a thing with red yellow and white video leads i can then plug these into the new humax box as it has these video connections.""
slightly ambiguous.  Hence hedging my bets.  

As to the cost, Farnell offer a range of scart stuff at varying prices and presumably quality.
Their spec/DATA sheets are something I find useful.
Your gender changer is likely to be more acceptable.

[Deleted User]

Note that both the example I gave in my 2nd reply comment have an in/out switch if that helps - I think that is the gender changer?