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Front wall boundary query

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  • theoretica
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    Looking at the cable and the way the wall fastens to the houses it looks like the wall is almost all their side of the likely boundary - assuming you agree the front boundary is where the walls join at the street.  Which to me means it might be your wall, but it is on their property and so they can knock it down, but you can ask for the bits if you want them.
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  • Please don’t take my post as any comment on who owns the wall (by the look of it part is within their boundary and part within yours) my post was only suggesting the simplest and cheapest solution if the neighbours are adamant the wall has got to go.

    I would be asking them if you could have the bricks that they knock down as you intend to have it rebuilt within your boundary, I’d also be mentioning how odd their pebble dashing will look.

    Oh and what does the cable run to?
    I guess where the bricks currently fasten to their wall they will put a post and have fence panels run down to their taller pillar as per the picture. I will obviously have a mess on my Cream pillar, i assume they will use a still saw and cut down. The cables are just VIRGIN cables running into my house. 
  • Please don’t take my post as any comment on who owns the wall (by the look of it part is within their boundary and part within yours) my post was only suggesting the simplest and cheapest solution if the neighbours are adamant the wall has got to go.

    I would be asking them if you could have the bricks that they knock down as you intend to have it rebuilt within your boundary, I’d also be mentioning how odd their pebble dashing will look.

    Oh and what does the cable run to?
    The cable is to Virgin in my house.  I guess where the bricks currently go to their property they will put a post and run fencing along to their front pillar.
  • Section62 said:

    As seen in the picture. The new owners from next door say they own it and are removing it?

    I'm with AdrianC as far as it looks, but it isn't central to the window openings (neither is the render/tyrolean junction for that matter), so if the internal party wall is central to the windows and that is the official boundary then there is something very wrong outside.

    Does the plan drawn up for the original purchase show the wall with a dog-leg?

    I'd actually be rather more concerned with what work the neighbours are doing that necessitates the removal of the wall. Are they putting in a space to park? Do they have a dropped kerb?

    If the way the hardcore has been laid under their window is in preparation for concrete to be laid on top then I'd be more concerned about the impact that might have in terms of damp affecting the house walls - although that is more of their problem than yours.

    If they are trying to sneakily add a parking space I'd be tempted to let them know about the council's rules on converting front gardens to parking spaces and how other people in the street have had their requests refused. If the neighbours don't clock that removing 'your' wall would result in you bringing their plans to the attention of the council then they are possibly so lacking in sense that nothing will make them be reasonable.
    Thank you, they are just making it a patio area.  I just wanted an understanding of actually who owns it rather than them just destroying it. i appreciate not very pretty at the moment and maybe it will look better, I just dont like the assuming attitude. I even spoke to the previous owner who sold it to the new owner, he lived there for 20 odd years and he said that he thought it was my wall. Thanks again for the advice.
    Just shows a straight wall. Its weird as off their property and onto mine.  I assume they will cut the wall with a still saw off my white pillar (leaving a rubbly mess) and run normal fencing.


  • Section62
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    i assume they will use a still saw and cut down.

    I wouldn't assume that. I'd want to agree with them exactly how much of the wall is being demolished (unless you are happy with them to remove the lot).

    If the pillar is on your land then so to must be part of the wall. You need to agree where their replacement wall/fence is going before they start work.

  • Section62 said:

    i assume they will use a still saw and cut down.

    I wouldn't assume that. I'd want to agree with them exactly how much of the wall is being demolished (unless you are happy with them to remove the lot).

    If the pillar is on your land then so to must be part of the wall. You need to agree where their replacement wall/fence is going before they start work.

    Oh yes of course, we don't get on very well so he could leave half of the wall there! my land and just leave it...  I will endeavour to try and talk to him
  • Section62
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    Just shows a straight wall. Its weird as off their property and onto mine.


    Isn't there a more accurate plan drawn up by the council when they sold to the first owner?

    That one is just an extract from an OS plan. It won't show boundary features to that level of detail.
  • Section62 said:

    Just shows a straight wall. Its weird as off their property and onto mine.


    Isn't there a more accurate plan drawn up by the council when they sold to the first owner?

    That one is just an extract from an OS plan. It won't show boundary features to that level of detail.
    No, I think the house i live in had 2 owners i am the third owner. Can i order this online? 

  •  You may think I am being an over the top !!!!!!, but this guys work is outstandingly poor. This is how he left the back after he recently ripped the hedge out:


  • Looking at the cable and the way the wall fastens to the houses it looks like the wall is almost all their side of the likely boundary - assuming you agree the front boundary is where the walls join at the street.  Which to me means it might be your wall, but it is on their property and so they can knock it down, but you can ask for the bits if you want them.
    Yes ok, thank you. Now listening to Section62 comments, he could indeed just leave half of the wall up on my side. which will look worst than the back of the property.  believe me he would do such a thing.  Again thanks everyone for the advice.
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