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  • unforeseen
    unforeseen Posts: 7,380 Forumite
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    It all depends on how your company does it.

    Some using a rolling year to calculate sick pay
  • Marcon
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    Hi,

    So I have worked for a company for 13 months. I have had four weeks off sick due to injury with sick notes when I had been there for seven months. 

    It says I am entitled to paid sick pay that increases with line of service. It says 7-12 months: two weeks fully paid and two weeks half pay. After year 1 (in year 2) I get four weeks fully paid and the same half paid. 

    My question is if I go off sick again within the year would I get paid more than two weeks or is it a fresh start after year 1?

    Thanks in advance
    I'm getting confused. When you posted in January (https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6234640/using-holiday-towards-sick-pay#latest) you were on sick leave and said you were entitled to 4 weeks full/4 weeks half pay and were already in the half pay entitlement.

    Sounds as if you've used all your sick pay entitlement until you've worked for the company for 24 months.
    Googling on your question might have been both quicker and easier, if you're only after simple facts rather than opinions!  
  • cazzzie987
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    Marcon said:
    Hi,

    So I have worked for a company for 13 months. I have had four weeks off sick due to injury with sick notes when I had been there for seven months. 

    It says I am entitled to paid sick pay that increases with line of service. It says 7-12 months: two weeks fully paid and two weeks half pay. After year 1 (in year 2) I get four weeks fully paid and the same half paid. 

    My question is if I go off sick again within the year would I get paid more than two weeks or is it a fresh start after year 1?

    Thanks in advance
    I'm getting confused. When you posted in January (https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6234640/using-holiday-towards-sick-pay#latest) you were on sick leave and said you were entitled to 4 weeks full/4 weeks half pay and were already in the half pay entitlement.

    Sounds as if you've used all your sick pay entitlement until you've worked for the company for 24 months.
    I thought I was, but it turned out I was only entitled to 2 weeks full and 2 weeks half. They wouldn't allow me to use holiday, so I lost a weeks pay by the time I returned. I have been there over a year now and it says I am entitled to 4 weeks full and 4 weeks half, but not sure if they start afresh after a year or they do rolling. 
  • Undervalued
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    Marcon said:
    Hi,

    So I have worked for a company for 13 months. I have had four weeks off sick due to injury with sick notes when I had been there for seven months. 

    It says I am entitled to paid sick pay that increases with line of service. It says 7-12 months: two weeks fully paid and two weeks half pay. After year 1 (in year 2) I get four weeks fully paid and the same half paid. 

    My question is if I go off sick again within the year would I get paid more than two weeks or is it a fresh start after year 1?

    Thanks in advance
    I'm getting confused. When you posted in January (https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6234640/using-holiday-towards-sick-pay#latest) you were on sick leave and said you were entitled to 4 weeks full/4 weeks half pay and were already in the half pay entitlement.

    Sounds as if you've used all your sick pay entitlement until you've worked for the company for 24 months.
    I thought I was, but it turned out I was only entitled to 2 weeks full and 2 weeks half. They wouldn't allow me to use holiday, so I lost a weeks pay by the time I returned. I have been there over a year now and it says I am entitled to 4 weeks full and 4 weeks half, but not sure if they start afresh after a year or they do rolling. 
    Also keep in mind that it is increasingly rare for company sick pay to be a hard and fast contractual entitlement. Yours could be but nine times out of ten there will be the word "discretionary" in there somewhere.

    Whilst companies frequently allow staff who are off sick for longer periods to take holiday, so as to get some money coming in over and above SSP they don't have to. They are entitled to insist that you keep your holiday and use it in the normal way after your have returned from sick leave.
  • cazzzie987
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    Marcon said:
    Hi,

    So I have worked for a company for 13 months. I have had four weeks off sick due to injury with sick notes when I had been there for seven months. 

    It says I am entitled to paid sick pay that increases with line of service. It says 7-12 months: two weeks fully paid and two weeks half pay. After year 1 (in year 2) I get four weeks fully paid and the same half paid. 

    My question is if I go off sick again within the year would I get paid more than two weeks or is it a fresh start after year 1?

    Thanks in advance
    I'm getting confused. When you posted in January (https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6234640/using-holiday-towards-sick-pay#latest) you were on sick leave and said you were entitled to 4 weeks full/4 weeks half pay and were already in the half pay entitlement.

    Sounds as if you've used all your sick pay entitlement until you've worked for the company for 24 months.
    I thought I was, but it turned out I was only entitled to 2 weeks full and 2 weeks half. They wouldn't allow me to use holiday, so I lost a weeks pay by the time I returned. I have been there over a year now and it says I am entitled to 4 weeks full and 4 weeks half, but not sure if they start afresh after a year or they do rolling. 
    Also keep in mind that it is increasingly rare for company sick pay to be a hard and fast contractual entitlement. Yours could be but nine times out of ten there will be the word "discretionary" in there somewhere.

    Whilst companies frequently allow staff who are off sick for longer periods to take holiday, so as to get some money coming in over and above SSP they don't have to. They are entitled to insist that you keep your holiday and use it in the normal way after your have returned from sick leave.
    Yeah HR said I couldn't, so I lost a weeks pay. I should be entitled to 2 weeks full if i take within the next year from what I am reading, but I am not sure if it starts again or not?
  • theoretica
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    My work has a brief statement about sick pay, and then a separate document in the  HR policies full of how the calculations will be done and what happens if a relevant anniversary comes up part way through an absence.  Basically, so long as they are offering more than the legal minimum (SSP) the employer can run their own individual rules so no-one here can tell you how it will work out because different companies are different.
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  • Savvy_Sue
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    The key thing, I think, is whether they work this on a rolling year. 

    We do, which means that someone who has 'run out' of entitlement to CSP can start receiving it again if their period of sick leave spans the anniversary of their start date. 

    sometimes a nightmare to work it out. 

    However, as already stated, the OP needs to ask THEIR employer what the situation is. 
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  • GeordieGeorge
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    This does come across as though you are planning to be sick again, as otherwise why the concern about something that is unlikely to happen.
    Your company is able to let you go if they think that you’re off too much.
  • 74jax
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    Question answered. Please delete, please delete please delete
    The post is really useful to others in the same boat, they may have the same question, find your post and save people's time by just reading the replies.  
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  • Manxman_in_exile
    Manxman_in_exile Posts: 8,380 Forumite
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    Why do people do this?

    Was it the post from GeordieGeorge  that got them worried?
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