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Question  I parked in a bay in a residential estate ,in a visitor bay  with a visitor parking permit,  My pick up is just longer than the parking bay and I have been fined for basically being outside the bay,  I appealed and said it not my fault the bays are to small,   They rejected this and want £100,    I have read that unless theres a POPAL number on the rejection letter then the rejection and the fine in invalid,and I can ignore it,     is this true ?    

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  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 150,876 Forumite
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    edited 27 April 2021 at 5:58PM
    No, that's stupid 'advice' whoever told you that?! 

    No doubt that's some rubbish advice from the CAB or whoever thinks that all parking firms are BPA AOS members and that all offer POPLA.

    You need to read the NEWBIES thread, please read it,.  Top of this forum.  UKCPM are not in the BPA AOS.  Please don't tell us that there is a BPA rectangle logo on the signs, please read the NEWBIES thread that already tells people about that as well, and it explains what 'PLAN A' is, in every case (and it's not appeal). 

    You can't ignore UKCPM because they sue people (we win, but even so).

    No link needed nor provided - see my signature that saves us having to show you where to click.  Because it shows you where to click.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • Redx
    Redx Posts: 38,084 Forumite
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    It's not a fine , it's an invoice

    Nothing makes a private PCN invalid

    Popla was never an option

    So please read that newbies thread near the top of the forum
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,225 Forumite
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    I'm afraid parking an oversized vehicle in spaces designed for standard cars is asking for trouble. Why do people express surprise?  You can't get a quart into a pint pot!

    You will always be dogged by this while you have such a vehicle. Righteous indignation isn't the answer, or the resolution. 
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • Redx
    Redx Posts: 38,084 Forumite
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    ideally the OP needs the new MHCLG CoP to include minimum bay sizes for parking bays, but that isnt a job for this forum, more for an MP to get onto the MHCLG and include in the new CoP due next year ( too late for this saga though )
  • D_P_Dance
    D_P_Dance Posts: 11,591 Forumite
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    It is not a fine, and this is stretching it a bit. read this

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_minimis#:~:text=De minimis is a Latin,court refuses to consider trifling

    and complain to your MP
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • fisherjim
    fisherjim Posts: 7,111 Forumite
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      I appealed and said it not my fault the bays are to small,  
    Correct, it's probably the local council there is a policy to try to limit car ownership in this country with minimal parking spaces, developers are therefore cramming what they can into the space they have, they also don't want commercial vehicle on new estates.
    Your vehicle is I'm afraid not welcome, of course that doesn't help traders or tradesmen either but everyone is fair game to a dodgy greedy PPC.

  • POPAL :)  - The new friendly payment app for non-existent parking infringements.
  • D_P_Dance
    D_P_Dance Posts: 11,591 Forumite
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    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
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