Dropped kerb help

SpiderLegs

Paper_hearts_1 said:

Not sure how to do a diagram, but it’s directly in front of my property, and for him to access his, he would have to go up the dropped kerb, either slightly drive into my drive or drive along the pavement. 

They would only have access to their drive (if constructed) if they drive up along my dropped kerb

I don’t mind sharing, if the cost is also shared. I just find it’s not fair for me fork out a few thousand for anyone to use, surely splitting the cost would have been efficient. 

Good shout in checking the title deeds, will see what happens. 

you’ve paid for work to be done to modify the council’s kerb. It’s not yours.
if the council want to allow the neighbour to use it as a valid point for them to access their own drive then they can do that.
you’re not getting any cost refunded.

justworriedabit

An interesting but worrying thread about non payers using your crossover you paid for. The biggest insult is the council telling you that you must left next door LA T use your drive you paid hard cash for. Incredible.

Tell the coucil to stick one in next door and get them to pay for it.

theoretica

Paper_hearts_1 said:

Not sure how to do a diagram, but it’s directly in front of my property, and for him to access his, he would have to go up the dropped kerb, either slightly drive into my drive or drive along the pavement. 

If they drive over the dropped kerb and along the pavement it is nothing to do with you - no permission needed, anyone may do so.  If they want to drive onto your drive then you may refuse - and perhaps ensure you have a fence or other barrier right to the edge of your property so that isn't a viable car route.

zagubov

A lot of the posts seem to be based on the charming and comforting notion that you can "fight city hall". 

Optimism is a much-missed factor in the current environment.

stig

you’re confusing two different things.

can someone else drive over ‘your’ dropped kerb? Yea, sure - it became part of the street furniture as soon as it was installed for your benefit. As long as it does the job you need it for, it’s really no problem who else uses it (presumably you’d like every other motorist to acknowledge its presence and not park in front of it) - it’s just a feature of the road now, what you paid for is the access, not ownership of the kerb itself. You should be glad about this, otherwise you’d be responsible for maintenance of the kerb and the section of the pavement you drive over for evermore.

can someone else drive across your drive to access their own property? Nope, not a chance unless the right to do so is already in the deeds or you agree to adding the right, which it sounds like you won’t. 

so keep using the dropped kerb to access your property, that’s why you paid for it, and if your neighbour encroaches on your property either fence it off or take other steps to prevent access. 

Stig.  

davilown

justworriedabit said:

An interesting but worrying thread about non payers using your crossover you paid for. The biggest insult is the council telling you that you must left next door LA T use your drive you paid hard cash for. Incredible.

Tell the coucil to stick one in next door and get them to pay for it.

I think your confusing driving over a dropped curb (which is public property that the council has allowed and vehicle in the country to drive up and on) against drive over the op’s own driveway.

Certainly not a worrying thing if just the drop curb.

Op, if they do need to drive over your driveway, and the neighbour has not row or way (or equivalent) put a nice brick wall on the corner (or a concrete bollard).

As for cash - no hope I’m afraid!

Alan2020

How hard is it to put a picture so people can give useful advice, people want free advice yet so bone idle lazy to upload a picture. People on here give very useful help....

bouicca21

I’d simply reply to the council that you are not prepared to create an easement to allow your neighbour to drive over your property.

princeofpounds

I suspect what is going on here is that many many councils have policies around dropped kerbs that prohibit installing them within a certain distance of already-existent dropped kerbs. The idea being to preserve a certain amount of on-road parking (I think this is a stupid rationale in most situations myself, but that's another matter).

Your neighbour may have seen your dropped kerb and asked the council if they can do the same. Then council would have said no, but you can use the dropped kerb if you can access it - it is the council's land after all. The neighbour points out that they can't access it because they would need to cross neighbouring land, and that's where the request to you comes in.

Agree with bouicca that a simple no is the best way ahead, and in the way bouicca expressed it.

prowla

As per the others - the dropped kerb belongs to the council and is open to public use, including the neighbour.

Your drive is your private property and you can put a post/bush/tree/hedge there if you choose.