Claiming compensation or admin costs for unfairly issued PCNs

awsduncan

Has anyone had any luck claiming compensation, or their own administrators costs, for PCNs that are proven to be issued unfairly?

beamerguy

awsduncan said:

Has anyone had any luck claiming compensation, or their own administrators costs, for PCNs that are proven to be issued unfairly?

Normally is by way of your costs and mostly it's £95 but that's if you win.

Here is one case where Parking Eye were zapped for £1550 ,,,,,, however the chap was a barrister ?

https://www.legalcheek.com/2017/08/parking-company-sues-top-qc-loses/

Umkomaas

awsduncan said:

Has anyone had any luck claiming compensation, or their own administrators costs, for PCNs that are proven to be issued unfairly?

Which 'administrators'?  The only place you can do this is in the county court. Do you have a court claim against you?  

The chances of getting anything more than the £95 mentioned above are extremely remote, unless you can prove that the claimant acted unreasonably - hassle, intimidation, harassment, letters by the sackful, aggressive phone calls, misleading information, out and out lies sadly seem not to count!

D_P_Dance

I think that it really depends on how much time, money,  and effort you are prepared to put into something. 

Yesterday I accepted £250 compensation from a second tier energy company for harassment to my wife.  Full story here

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6249559/bulb-not-seeing-the-light/p1

Bargepole suggested I claim £750, but that would have meant hours of research, court appearances etc., etc.  Quite frankly, I just could not be bothered.  I just wanted to poke them in the eye,

Another lady similarly harassed by British Gas, took them to the appeal court and cost them over £30,000.  I admire here But I would not emulate her.

ParkerstNick

On a similar theme, once the legality of a PPC's claim has been successfully challenged for whatever reason - e.g. forbidding signage, no landowner authority etc, do the victims who have previously been scammed have any legal redress against the PPC for having been fraudulently tricked into needelessly paying up - I'm thinking of say block residents who are fairly easily contactable?

beamerguy

ParkerstNick said:

On a similar theme, once the legality of a PPC's claim has been successfully challenged for whatever reason - e.g. forbidding signage, no landowner authority etc, do the victims who have previously been scammed have any legal redress against the PPC for having been fraudulently tricked into needelessly paying up - I'm thinking of say block residents who are fairly easily contactable?

Sooner or later we probably will see the same action as PPI ... it will come

Umkomaas

ParkerstNick said:

On a similar theme, once the legality of a PPC's claim has been successfully challenged for whatever reason - e.g. forbidding signage, no landowner authority etc, do the victims who have previously been scammed have any legal redress against the PPC for having been fraudulently tricked into needelessly paying up - I'm thinking of say block residents who are fairly easily contactable?

It will need orchestrating. Who's up for that?  Any ambulance chasers?  Will BWL, DCBL, Gladstones switch horses?  

ParkerstNick

Umkomaas said:

ParkerstNick said:

On a similar theme, once the legality of a PPC's claim has been successfully challenged for whatever reason - e.g. forbidding signage, no landowner authority etc, do the victims who have previously been scammed have any legal redress against the PPC for having been fraudulently tricked into needelessly paying up - I'm thinking of say block residents who are fairly easily contactable?

It will need orchestrating. Who's up for that?  Any ambulance chasers?  Will BWL, DCBL, Gladstones switch horses?  

I don't mean on a national scale.  But if a good number of flat owners in my block tell me they have paid up, and I prove that my own charge was unfounded, should they be able to claim back the money they paid under false pretences, in theory?  

fisherjim

ParkerstNick said:

I don't mean on a national scale.  But if a good number of flat owners in my block tell me they have paid up, and I prove that my own charge was unfounded, should they be able to claim back the money they paid under false pretences, in theory?  

The other flat owners paid their invoices voluntarily they are going to struggle challenging now.

D_P_Dance

Anyone can make a small claim, it is cheap and easy.  It would seem to me that flat towners with primacy of contract would be in a good position to thusly damage PPCs


However, given that people who pay these companies are often not very bright, a court action may be too demanding and stressful.

Le_Kirk

D_P_Dance said:

Anyone can make a small claim, it is cheap and easy.  It would seem to me that flat towners with primacy of contract would be in a good position to thusly damage PPCs

However, given that people who pay these companies are often not very bright, a court action may be too demanding and stressful.

A bit harsh @D_P_Dance!  I suspect every person involved would have to make a claim in small claims court.  You (the OP) could offer to help with the claims given your success and knowledge.