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A Paupers Pension Tale (Not many nuts to dig up)

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  • hostertlady
    hostertlady Posts: 876 Forumite
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    But those of you with 'Grandparent  duties' how the heck do you manage to go off for weeks at a time? Maybe it's me ( holding myself back? putting others before myself etc)

    You can add to 'Grandparent duties' any type of family caring responsibilities. Such as dealing with elderly parents, family members who have physical or mental health problems, learning or physical disabilities etc

     Or even just having a dog, or a regular commitment to almost anything.

    Just having the finances to go on extended holidays, does not necessarily mean you can, even if you want to.

    this is so true! we have 4 cats so that costs a fortune in cattery fees, almost doubling the cost of the holiday..
    I was part of 'the sandwich generation' up to a few years ago ..
    so, yes, therte are many obstacles to jump over even if you do have the funding to do what you like x
  • hostertlady
    hostertlady Posts: 876 Forumite
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    robatwork said:
    I have enjoyed reading this thread and pop in every now and again, I have no desire to do a 'round the world cruise' once retired.
    My hubby hopes to retire at 63 ( feb 2025).. I am already retired but am busier than ever with 3 Grandaughters, cats, and friends to fit into my days.. :smiley:
    Its our 40th wedding anniversary next year so we plan to do something, not sure yet.. 
    But those of you with 'Grandparent  duties' how the heck do you manage to go off for weeks at a time? Maybe it's me ( holding myself back? putting others before myself etc)

    I'm not a grandparent myself (hurry up if you're one of ours reading this!) so this may sound harsh but surely the whole POINT of grandparenting is to help out/get pleasure from your grandkids without the responsibility of being a parent? The people who look after your grandkids are their parents, unless your "duties" are actually officially in loco parentis?

    If indeed your offspring has never looked after their own children continuously and solely for a few weeks, then I think it's actually beneficial for you to go away and not be always available - you're a privilege not a right.
    o yes, i do get pleasure and we have got a family holiday booked this year ( the bank of mum and dad are paying for this )
    i know what you mean about not always being available! having said that, we managed a week in Spain last September, i did my daughter 6 months notice that i wasnt available for any school runs etc 
  • Pat38493
    Pat38493 Posts: 3,328 Forumite
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    Ciprico said:
    It was a great trip, food fantastic, logistics easy, everything cheap with a relaxed view on regulations, ie the kids (we took our two teenagers) could go on a supervised scuba dive without any instruction/experiece and drive mopeds. You avoid talking politics to the locals and wonder at the corruption (ie the tour bus is pulled over and the driver hands cash over to soldiers). The beaches are disappointing (nothing like Thailand), a huge amount of (touristic) development in the big coastal towns and a vast number of overweight Chinese and Russian tourists. (ie the rich!), who the locals seem to just about tolerate...But the local people/food/weather/history/natural beauty massively over compensate for any short comings once you leave the big towns.

       :o

    Are you saying they went straight into open water without a few training sessions in a pool first?

    Even in benign conditions things can go wrong very fast - and once you’re in the “incident pit” it’s very hard to get out…

    For example an uncontrolled ascent could easily result in DCI (“the bends”) which means sessions in a chamber - assuming one is available locally. And doubtful insurance would cover it…

    If anyone thinks they may fancy scuba diving on holiday I strongly recommend you find your local BSAC/PADI centre and get qualified before you go. 
    From what I saw in the past this usually means they are pretty much held onto by an instructor or at least an expert for the whole time and in waters that are 10-15 foot deep.  If they were actually diving on their own unattached without any training I haven't seen that before and indeed this sounds pretty unsafe, even in shallow waters.
  • Albermarle
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    Ciprico said:
    It was a great trip, food fantastic, logistics easy, everything cheap with a relaxed view on regulations, ie the kids (we took our two teenagers) could go on a supervised scuba dive without any instruction/experiece and drive mopeds. You avoid talking politics to the locals and wonder at the corruption (ie the tour bus is pulled over and the driver hands cash over to soldiers). The beaches are disappointing (nothing like Thailand), a huge amount of (touristic) development in the big coastal towns and a vast number of overweight Chinese and Russian tourists. (ie the rich!), who the locals seem to just about tolerate...But the local people/food/weather/history/natural beauty massively over compensate for any short comings once you leave the big towns.

       :o

    Are you saying they went straight into open water without a few training sessions in a pool first?

    Even in benign conditions things can go wrong very fast - and once you’re in the “incident pit” it’s very hard to get out…

    For example an uncontrolled ascent could easily result in DCI (“the bends”) which means sessions in a chamber - assuming one is available locally. And doubtful insurance would cover it…

    If anyone thinks they may fancy scuba diving on holiday I strongly recommend you find your local BSAC/PADI centre and get qualified before you go. 
    Also teenagers driving mopeds on holiday is an accident waiting to happen.
  • Ciprico
    Ciprico Posts: 639 Forumite
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    The water was shallow.

     The roads were quiet. 

    I'm glad I didn't mention shooting Ak47s at the Chi-chi war tunnels.... 
  • Ciprico said:
    The water was shallow.

     The roads were quiet. 

    I'm glad I didn't mention shooting Ak47s at the Chi-chi war tunnels.... 
    If your regulator starts to free flow and you panic because you don’t know what to do you’re in trouble irrespective of the depth of the water. 
    MFW Challenge: Mortgage free in 2008! ACHIEVED! :D
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