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First time investor - is £800 per month too much?

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  • kuratowski
    kuratowski Posts: 1,415 Forumite
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    Sometimes the amount is relevant, as you can run up against various limits (ISA allowance, annual allowance, personal savings "allowance", etc).  So on the whole, I think it is best to include figures in threads on this forum, in spite of the risk of being accused of bragging!
  • McBainUK
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    Yeah I was assuming you had a long term investing horizon.

    If you're using this money to save for a house then a S+S ISA may not be appropriate given probable volatility. Usual advice given is investments need to be left in situ for 5 years, if not 10, to ride that volatility out.

    It may be worth considering first maximising a Cash LISA? You get a 25% bump from the government every year, which will likely beat investment return from a S+S ISA. You'd still have some cash left over which you could pump into a S+S ISA if you were content with the prospect of potentially coming out with a lower figure than you put in when it comes to the point you want to buy your house.
    Thanks for raising this again as it's highlighted a flaw in my thinking.  :# I was not considering 10yrs from each monthly deposit, only from the first one! I will go back to the start and consider what we want from these savings.

  • McBainUK
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    You mentioned a house move - does that imply you already own a house/flat? A cash LISA is only useful for buying your first house/flat. If you already own one, then a LISA is only useful for retirement. And in your situation (access to a salary sacrifice pension, and approaching higher rate tax), a standard pension is better than a LISA for retirement.
    While a pension is better for retirement, and cash savings accounts or premium bonds are better for money expect to use in the near term, I think there can be a place for S&S ISA as something intermediate, for money you're not quite sure when you'll want to use. Most people's (financial) lives are not totally predictable.
    Yes you are correct I own a house already.

    It's true that when trying to plan this stuff it's trying to predict your future self and circumstance. What term do you consider as "intermediate"?

  • Albermarle
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    in this context 'intermediate' means money you might want before you reach the age when you can take money from your pension , but normal investing 'rules' mean that for anything you might need in say 7 years  , you should keep in cash ( although the exact time is subject to opinion )
    So the intermediate period is between the two. 
  • Eco_Miser
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    McBainUK said:


    Reading the info on here regarding S&S ISAs, all the guides and forum posts seem to only discuss <£50 per month investments.
    I plan to invest £800 per month and the substancial difference is causing a little concern for me...
    • Is this a bad thing to do?
    • Does the savings advice change if the amounts invested this much more than the guides/examples?
    There are all sorts of limits to tax-advantaged investing which <£50 per month investing won't reach. Have a read of http://monevator.com/ and some of the comment threads there for all sorts of obscure tips and tricks - and read some of the linked blogs to see what the ridiculously wealthy are doing to ensure a long (starting early) and comfortable retirement.


    Eco Miser
    Saving money for well over half a century
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