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Struggling to get a loan at a good rate

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  • Sncjw
    Sncjw Posts: 3,562 Forumite
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    Here's a novel idea.

    Why not apply for the loan fully.

    If you were that desperate for a loan you would have applied by now.

    Maybe because you took out a 15k loan two years ago then you want this large amount is rasing alarm bells.

    You won't know fully until you apply for tbe loan fully. 
    Mortgage free wannabe 

    Actual mortgage stating amount £75,150

    Overpayment paused to pay off cc 

    Starting balance £66,565.45

    Current balance £58,108

    Cc around 8k. 

  • Sncjw said:
    Here's a novel idea.

    Why not apply for the loan fully.

    If you were that desperate for a loan you would have applied by now.

    Maybe because you took out a 15k loan two years ago then you want this large amount is rasing alarm bells.

    You won't know fully until you apply for tbe loan fully. 
    Thats fair enough if they the 15k car loan is raising alarms, it is now 12.5k outsanding

    and a lender
    told me generally this is ok because other lenders can see that it is going down consistently each month (ive made 16 consecutive payments this far)

    but i made a full application today after seeing 95 per cent eligibility on a loan and i got rejected

    so now i have a hard search recorded.

    so yeah im desperate and here i am trying absolute best in life to get this loan
  • getmore4less
    getmore4less Posts: 46,882 Forumite
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    edited 10 April 2021 at 7:17PM
    £15k over such a  long term with a low payment
    (£2.5k over 16m is £160)

    Might not be helping hints at not being able to afford more.
  • kimwp
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    Adams18 said:
    When you apply for a loan, you need to give a reason.

    Different reasons have different risk profiles.

    That's why it is relevant; if you are not honest about the reason, then it's a fraudulent application.

    You can't get reliable advice on half of a story. 
    And I gave a reason, and according to the lender that is a valid reason. They only give you a preselected list of reason to choose from, they don't give you a text box to write your entire life story.

    I have applied for loans before and got a loan before for my car, not my first rodeo.

    I got 15K loan at 2.9% over a year ago.


    You wrote about being a two week to update a cv person as an example of someone who likes to properly prepare, yet you (as previously discussed) didn't state background that would help derive the best solutions, didn't state in your opening post that you were trying to understand how to put yourself in the best position for a loan (page 9ish?) and only now mention this existing loan which is very pertinent to the question. It may be worth pondering the difference between quality and quantity. 
    Statement of Affairs (SOA) link: https://www.lemonfool.co.uk/financecalculators/soa.php

    For free, non-judgemental debt advice, try: Stepchange or National Debtline. Beware fee charging companies with similar names.
  • Sncjw
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    So they will be assessing you with at least 37k of debt so just over half your wages.

    They do factor in household costs
     I can't remmever if you have a mortgage alsp they will factor the monthly payments for that too. 
    Mortgage free wannabe 

    Actual mortgage stating amount £75,150

    Overpayment paused to pay off cc 

    Starting balance £66,565.45

    Current balance £58,108

    Cc around 8k. 

  • Batesy1976
    Batesy1976 Posts: 188 Forumite
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    Sncjw said:
    So they will be assessing you with at least 37k of debt so just over half your wages.

    They do factor in household costs
     I can't remmever if you have a mortgage alsp they will factor the monthly payments for that too. 
    They have average household expense figures that they use.  Rent/mortgage payments will be included in that.
  • kimwp said:
    Adams18 said:
    When you apply for a loan, you need to give a reason.

    Different reasons have different risk profiles.

    That's why it is relevant; if you are not honest about the reason, then it's a fraudulent application.

    You can't get reliable advice on half of a story. 
    And I gave a reason, and according to the lender that is a valid reason. They only give you a preselected list of reason to choose from, they don't give you a text box to write your entire life story.

    I have applied for loans before and got a loan before for my car, not my first rodeo.

    I got 15K loan at 2.9% over a year ago.


    You wrote about being a two week to update a cv person as an example of someone who likes to properly prepare, yet you (as previously discussed) didn't state background that would help derive the best solutions, didn't state in your opening post that you were trying to understand how to put yourself in the best position for a loan (page 9ish?) and only now mention this existing loan which is very pertinent to the question. It may be worth pondering the difference between quality and quantity. 
    But i did mention it earlier?

    i mentioner exactly how much is currently outstanding on the loan right now

    and how much is on my credit card
  • [Deleted User]
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    edited 13 April 2021 at 11:30PM
    Sncjw said:
    So they will be assessing you with at least 37k of debt so just over half your wages.

    They do factor in household costs
     I can't remmever if you have a mortgage alsp they will factor the monthly payments for that too. 
    Sncjw said:
    So they will be assessing you with at least 37k of debt so just over half your wages.

    They do factor in household costs
     I can't remmever if you have a mortgage alsp they will factor the monthly payments for that too. 
    But thats the thing i dont understand where everyone gets this equation from in comparing outstanding debt to annual income rather than the industry used equation which is monthly income versus monthly expenditure which is a better indicator of affordability

    i pay zero rent/mortgage dont have a mortgae in my name.

    2k disposable income a month net after 380 current expenditure on debt payments 

    now asking for a loan that would cost 330 to 450 a month extra expenditure 

    out of that 2000 disposable income a month 

    Been in job for 2 years and 8 months
  • MrFrugalFever
    MrFrugalFever Posts: 1,301 Forumite
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    Adams18 said:
    Sncjw said:
    So they will be assessing you with at least 37k of debt so just over half your wages.

    They do factor in household costs
     I can't remmever if you have a mortgage alsp they will factor the monthly payments for that too. 
    Sncjw said:
    So they will be assessing you with at least 37k of debt so just over half your wages.

    They do factor in household costs
     I can't remmever if you have a mortgage alsp they will factor the monthly payments for that too. 
    But thats the thing i dont understand where everyone gets this equation from in comparing outstanding debt to annual income rather than the industry used equation which is monthly income versus monthly expenditure which is a better indicator of affordability

    i pay zero rent/mortgage dont have a mortgae in my name.

    2k disposable income a month net after 380 current expenditure on debt payments 

    now asking for a loan that would cost 330 to 450 a month extra expenditure 

    out of that 2000 disposable income a month 

    Been in job for 2 years and 8 months
    Something doesn’t quite add up here, you said in your OP you have salary of £70k+, now you’re saying you have no rent/mortgage and only service debts to the tune of £380 leaving £2,000 disposable income....where’s the rest of disposable income?
    If you believe you can, you will. If you believe you can't, you won't.

    Secured/Unsecured loans x 1 
    Credit Cards x 8 (total limit £55,050)
    Creation FS Retail Account x 1
    Creation Credit Sale 0% x 1 = £112.50pm x 20 mths
    0% Overdraft x 1 (£0 / £250)
    Mortgage Outstanding - £137,707.00 (Payment 13/360)
    Total Debt = £7,400 (0%APR) @ £100pm - Stoozing

  • [Deleted User]
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    edited 13 April 2021 at 11:55PM
    Adams18 said:
    Sncjw said:
    So they will be assessing you with at least 37k of debt so just over half your wages.

    They do factor in household costs
     I can't remmever if you have a mortgage alsp they will factor the monthly payments for that too. 
    Sncjw said:
    So they will be assessing you with at least 37k of debt so just over half your wages.

    They do factor in household costs
     I can't remmever if you have a mortgage alsp they will factor the monthly payments for that too. 
    But thats the thing i dont understand where everyone gets this equation from in comparing outstanding debt to annual income rather than the industry used equation which is monthly income versus monthly expenditure which is a better indicator of affordability

    i pay zero rent/mortgage dont have a mortgae in my name.

    2k disposable income a month net after 380 current expenditure on debt payments 

    now asking for a loan that would cost 330 to 450 a month extra expenditure 

    out of that 2000 disposable income a month 

    Been in job for 2 years and 8 months
    Something doesn’t quite add up here, you said in your OP you have salary of £70k+, now you’re saying you have no rent/mortgage and only service debts to the tune of £380 leaving £2,000 disposable income....where’s the rest of disposable income?
    Student loan is 350 and the rest are household bills/ food, car insurance, fuel, mobile phone etc
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