is my S21 valid

SpiderLegs

theartfullodger said:

That's sadly the consequences of Thatcher's 1988 Housing Act section 21.  Sorry. Also why buy2let became so popular after it all came into effect.

But you may stay, when you find something give notice expiring done 1 to 2 months later.  Me, I'd see if landlord was willing to "encourage" first before giving notice.

There have been 8 elections and 6 prime ministers since the s.21 was introduced 23 years ago.  Yet here we are, still banging on about Thatcher.

Edit: 33 years ago

AdrianC

squizz11 said:

theartfullodger said:

Sounds invalid but as said s21, even if valid, does not end tenancy nor compel tenant to leave.

Don't go, do nothing, see what landlord does next.  Probably some 12 months to evict given the mess Johnson's made of the court system .

Of course landlord might be willing to £££££encourage you to go.  I'd want £5k upward but I'm a greedy landlord.

I want to go,  just finding somewhere is proving exceptionally hard.   feel like being an exceptionally hard working family with 14 year perfect rental history counts for nothing just because we get a little bit of help and have a dog

theartfullodger said:

That's sadly the consequences of Thatcher's 1988 Housing Act section 21.  Sorry. Also why buy2let became so popular after it all came into effect.

I think you're misreading.

My reading of the comment about the "little bit of help", "rental history" and dog was simply that they could not find another property, not that they'd been issued an s21 in the first place.

The issue with finding a new property is most likely to be the dog, not the UC claim or the landlord's reference.

Playing hardball with a landlord who needs to sell for financial reasons, to the point of getting a possession hearing thrown out so that they can stay, is not going to help any future property search.

deannagone

I had the same problem with the same history. Try sourcing a property through OpenRent (usually will be talking directly to LL's) but I always took my budget and bank statements with me to show them I managed money responsibly and put rent before anything else.  Otherwise there will be a need to apply for social housing at some point.  As said, there's no reason to panic right now. 

squizz11

AdrianC said:

squizz11 said:

theartfullodger said:

Sounds invalid but as said s21, even if valid, does not end tenancy nor compel tenant to leave.

Don't go, do nothing, see what landlord does next.  Probably some 12 months to evict given the mess Johnson's made of the court system .

Of course landlord might be willing to £££££encourage you to go.  I'd want £5k upward but I'm a greedy landlord.

I want to go,  just finding somewhere is proving exceptionally hard.   feel like being an exceptionally hard working family with 14 year perfect rental history counts for nothing just because we get a little bit of help and have a dog

theartfullodger said:

That's sadly the consequences of Thatcher's 1988 Housing Act section 21.  Sorry. Also why buy2let became so popular after it all came into effect.

I think you're misreading.

My reading of the comment about the "little bit of help", "rental history" and dog was simply that they could not find another property, not that they'd been issued an s21 in the first place.

The issue with finding a new property is most likely to be the dog, not the UC claim or the landlord's reference.

Playing hardball with a landlord who needs to sell for financial reasons, to the point of getting a possession hearing thrown out so that they can stay, is not going to help any future property search.

it's probably 50/50 with the dog and  UC.   actually was turned down because of UC and the estate agent has tried backtracking on her comments.   the dog even comes with his own references 

squizz11

deannagone said:

I had the same problem with the same history. Try sourcing a property through OpenRent (usually will be talking directly to LL's) but I always took my budget and bank statements with me to show them I managed money responsibly and put rent before anything else.  Otherwise there will be a need to apply for social housing at some point.  As said, there's no reason to panic right now. 

thank you ,  think I am going to have to try this.

theartfullodger

Oh, they can find the money.  Alternative is not attractive for them.

Good luck!