Old job paying me wages when I’ve left company ..universal credit affected.

slou33

I haven’t heard anything from old employer today.
universal credit have got back to me on my journal and said if they don’t amend it I will loose my April payment but will be able to get that back when old employer updates rti.
I haven’t paid them it back yet ,as a couple of people have said once they receive the money they might be unwilling to help.

slou33

Old employer has said they won’t amend rti until I return the money but I’m worried I will return it and they won’t amend it or il still loose out on universal credit payment.

tomtom256

There is another angle to this as well.

Now you have notifed the error to your previous employer, they could go down the retaining a wrongful credit route, to force you to pay it back.

Surely, you will have a paper trail for the payment and repayment so should be fine UC wise, as they can raise it as a dispute, if the company does not update the RTI data.

[Deleted User]

I would get firm with them, opening up a complaint or grievance - point out their error in paying, what, 5 week's money for 1 day, so you cannot trust what they say and remind them your benefit is all you have and you are vulnerable. They do sound like a mightily concerning outfit to have carried on paying for no work! I recently left a job where I had done 3 week's of work - the company were really hot to get 2 days over pay back where they couldn't adjust payroll in time, it helped I asked them rather then them having to broach the point, but like I say keen quite rightly to get their money back for unworked time, they agreed to produce an invoice once payroll had advised updated figures for the situation and offered a reference.

slou33

tomtom256 said:

There is another angle to this as well.

Now you have notifed the error to your previous employer, they could go down the retaining a wrongful credit route, to force you to pay it back.

Surely, you will have a paper trail for the payment and repayment so should be fine UC wise, as they can raise it as a dispute, if the company does not update the RTI data.

The problem is if they don’t update the records in time I won’t receive a UC payment for a few weeks till this is resolved.
which means I will have 0 to live on,no money for food,rent etc etc 
Through no fault of my own.
A rti dispute can take weeks.

slou33

Deleted User said:

I would get firm with them, opening up a complaint or grievance - point out their error in paying, what, 5 week's money for 1 day, so you cannot trust what they say and remind them your benefit is all you have and you are vulnerable. They do sound like a mightily concerning outfit to have carried on paying for no work! I recently left a job where I had done 3 week's of work - the company were really hot to get 2 days over pay back where they couldn't adjust payroll in time, it helped I asked them rather then them having to broach the point, but like I say keen quite rightly to get their money back for unworked time, they agreed to produce an invoice once payroll had advised updated figures for the situation and offered a reference.

The company is one of Britain’s largest company’s as well.

calcotti

slou33 said: The problem is if they don’t update the records in time I won’t receive a UC payment for a few weeks till this is resolved.

which means I will have 0 to live on,no money for food,rent etc etc 
Through no fault of my own.
A rti dispute can take weeks.

Which is exactly your argument to the company as to why you cannot pay them back in advance.

tomtom256

slou33 said:

The problem is if they don’t update the records in time I won’t receive a UC payment for a few weeks till this is resolved.
which means I will have 0 to live on,no money for food,rent etc etc 
Through no fault of my own.
A rti dispute can take weeks.

I fully understand that, however from a legal view point, they have you over a barrel, if they go down that route, which could cause you more issues in the long run.
Even if they update their records, it could still take weeks for UC to update their records and release a payment.

slou33

tomtom256 said:

slou33 said:

The problem is if they don’t update the records in time I won’t receive a UC payment for a few weeks till this is resolved.
which means I will have 0 to live on,no money for food,rent etc etc 
Through no fault of my own.
A rti dispute can take weeks.

I fully understand that, however from a legal view point, they have you over a barrel, if they go down that route, which could cause you more issues in the long run.
Even if they update their records, it could still take weeks for UC to update their records and release a payment.

Hopefully they won’t as I contacted them with their error so that shows to them I want to re pay the money.
All I want is to receive my UC payment and then I will pay them back.
Tbh I don’t think they would go down that route as it’s a huge company and they employ over 100,000 people in the UK so unsure they would be bothered.