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Parking in a reversing bay; help needed!

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  • unforeseen
    unforeseen Posts: 7,382 Forumite
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    Unless I am missing something, neither you nor your neighbour on the Tee have a right to park there either but there appears to be a car as well as the van parked on it
  • moneysavinghero
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    edited 29 March 2021 at 11:35AM
    Can you clarify, is your parents parking a valid drive, or have they adjusted their fence to allow a car in the back garden? I’m just comparing to neighbours fence in photo, does your title plan give permission to cross the pavement in a vehicle? It’s not clear if that’s a lowered kerb for access or just the general street pavement. 

    I think the OP's house is the one with the white car, the house you have highlighted is their neighbour.
  • UnderOffer
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    Oh thank you @moneysavinghero, apologies to OP 😀.  So looks like even the neighbours off road parking access could be an issue. 
  • unforeseen
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    As its unofficial by the looks of it then I don't think they could argue much about that. 
  • princeofpounds
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    I don't think issues of planning permission matter for where the OP and their neighbour are parking. These are - apparently - not adopted streets and therefore driving over the pavement is not an issue (at least, as far as the council is concerned)
  • Jeepers_Creepers
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    edited 29 March 2021 at 12:09PM
    davidmcn said:
    (If the council asks why your dad let it go on for so long, just say he was elderly, wasn't sure what to do about it, he was kind-hearted, didn't like upsetting folk, possibly felt a bit intimidated, that sort of stuff. But it was always a nuisance.)
    Why do you think the council would be involved? It's a private road.

    Because it's potentially a statutory nuisance?

    And if it isn't deemed to be so, I hope Cosmo's mum has LP.
  • davidmcn
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    davidmcn said:
    (If the council asks why your dad let it go on for so long, just say he was elderly, wasn't sure what to do about it, he was kind-hearted, didn't like upsetting folk, possibly felt a bit intimidated, that sort of stuff. But it was always a nuisance.)
    Why do you think the council would be involved? It's a private road.
    Because it's potentially a statutory nuisance?
    I've never known a council wade into a parking dispute on private land (unless they themselves are one of the owners).
  • princeofpounds
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    davidmcn said:
    (If the council asks why your dad let it go on for so long, just say he was elderly, wasn't sure what to do about it, he was kind-hearted, didn't like upsetting folk, possibly felt a bit intimidated, that sort of stuff. But it was always a nuisance.)
    Why do you think the council would be involved? It's a private road.

    Because it's potentially a statutory nuisance?
    The council/police could potentially be involved, IF the parking was preventing other people with residences on the site from accessing the public highway. Merely occupying the space is not a statutory nuisance however. The fact that the public highway is quite some distance away to this private road location doesn't matter, in theory. This is analogous to the situation with driveways - if someone blocks you in, you can often get the authorities to remove them, but if they park on your driveway, you're basically expected to deal with it yourself (and the legal options are rather limited and slow).

    However, in practice you would expect an uphill battle to convince the authorities to get involved given it is a private road and not a complete obstruction.

    Almost certainly injunctive relief from the courts would be the way to sort it through legal channels.
  • theoretica
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    Seems to me that a dispute with neighbours will make the property harder to sell - probably harder by much more than not having this parking space.  Perhaps this needs to be firmly pointed out to the estate agent?
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  • seradane
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    edited 29 March 2021 at 12:29PM
    Here's a thought - I know nothing about the expense or legality of doing so, but I'm sure some other users here would - could you arrange to have diagonal stripes painted across this reversing area? Those would dissuade most from parking on them, even if there was very little enforcement available.

    e.g 
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