Beetles? HELP! Can you identify these beetles? (photos included) we have beetles on the carpet!!

Danny_G

 I  have changed this post, to include photos of what beetles we have got, can you help identify what they are?
Does it look like a variety of breads/ a few different types/variety of beetles?





Furniture beetles/woodworm/bugs-
Spraying to Kill,but what if their nest is under the floorboards?
Have you had these bugs? was was your experience, how did you eliminate them? 

Hello, have got bugs coming in the upstairs bathroom  floor. this floor is tiled (ceramic tiles) but on this floor every day there are about 3-4 furniture beetles which we can see.
We used an Amazon powder which kills some, but new ones keep emerging. (so it only provided a minor solution)

The outside of the bathroom is the upstairs landing which has carpet. and there are about 3-4 beetles on top of the carpet there too everyday.

I know you get professionals who come out with their 'killer spray'

Here is an image of them (ours seem to be common furniture beetles)

what if the all visible wood is all sprayed but the nest is Under the floorboards completely?

the nest is the source the problem.

The spray will not get down there will it? /so the nest (source) will not be sprayed.

you can also buy 'professional' products online, and a sprayer, so if we got that and bought a sprayer, how would we spray under the floorboards..would we have to lift/unscrew them all up and check if there was wood worms there? (which would be a right hassle)

Have you had this problem before of furniture beetles? what was your experience? how was it eradicated ?  how did you eliminate them?  or did it get worse?, and they took over your whole life? (i hope not)

(We cannot see where they are coming from, they seem to be  crawling on various parts of the bathroom floor... doesn't seem like 1 hole or anything)

The post above has been edited, I have included photos of the beetles we are getting.
Can you help identify them, as we don't want to diagnose the 'wrong' type of insecticide.

Davesnave

This is a gardening forum; the one you needed to post in is called 'In My Home.'

However, as you are here, I will make you aware that furniture beetles (woodworm to many people) don't have nests, nor do they  usually infest modern property with underfloor ventilation and central heating. These tiny creatures don't operate in a home unless it is old and damp, so a description of your house would be useful.

Lots of older houses had furniture beetle (past tense) which attacked while the wood was new and still had moisture in it, then died out as it dried. In modern houses the structural wood is usually of low moisture content and/or treated against insect attack anyway.

So. the chances of you having woodworm under the floor would be low, unless your house is old, damp and not centrally heated. Like chilblains, most of the little beggars have died out, though it doesn't stop mortgage lenders insisting on pointless treatment if a surveyor finds evidence of damage.

Danny_G

Thanks Davesbave.
What is the solution to finding where they are coming from ?
And what are the methods to get rid if them?

Can they die out them selves naturally (workout taking any action) ?  In weeks/months?

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House is a detached 3 bed, with central heating, which has been on everyday
 It is an old build about 50+ years 

(It is Not a new build)

Davesnave

Your house is the same age as mine and I'd not expect any woodworm to be active unless there is a place that is damp. That could happen under a bathroom floor with a small leak suppose, but apart from that I'm at a loss to understand why you have the beetles, if that's what they are. Even in my unheated, open barn the woodworm has stopped being active since the untreated timber posts dried out fully. (2004 build)

twopenny

If it's woodworm they have a life cycle. It's the grub that's laid in wood and eats it's way out leaving little round holes. Have you seen any little round holes? May be worth lifting the carpet to see or looking at the skirting to check.

This is a good link to describe it and check that the beetle you have is woodworm.

https://www.timberwise.co.uk/woodworm-treatment/the-life-cycle-of-woodworm/

If you find the holes it's still worth treating it and the surrounding wood with a proprietry brand.

I'll have a mild disagreement with Davesnave in that I recently found some in the base of a small table stored in a dry garage and the wood was dry. Possibily they came from elsewhere as I have old furniture stored there.

The only possibility is that they are coming from wooden floorboards/joists and through the gaps if you have them.

An old tutor in antique furniture said Methalyted Spirit to soak into the wood to prevent reinfestation.

It's the right time of year for the grubs to mature but I'm still doubtful if this is it. However check. No holes in furniture or woodwork then you have a different beetle.

Danny_G

Thanks.
The post above has been edited, I have included photos of the beetles we are getting.
Can you help identify them, as we don't want to diagnose the 'wrong' type of insecticide.

How much would a damp specialist cost to come and have a look at, AND eradicate the problem using his solutions/sprays.?

Here are photos added again:

Danny_G

They are either furniture beetles (wood boring beetles)
or biscuit beetles

they both look very similar, can anyone help identify them, from my above photos?

Thanks 

Farway

Years back, 1930 build house had them, required professional sprayer as part of mortgage to get woodworm G'tee certificate for the mortgage co, as per Dave post

I had them here, 60s build, but they arrived in an old desk, once that was removed they went with it

Have you perhaps had older furniture recently?

Apodemus

They certainly look like common furniture beetle.  As everyone else has said, you need to look for the flight holes in the wood and accumulations of "frass" - the dust that comes out of the wood as they emerge. 

It is interesting that you are getting them in the bathroom - one of the few places in a modern house that is likely to be sufficiently humid.   I'd get the bath panel off and have a look at what is going on under there.

The other place in houses where it is common to find active infestations is the back-board to your electrical cupboard/fuse board.  When a house is professionally treated, the backboard can't be sprayed with chemical and often remains as a source of beetles.