Bw legal letter for parking contravention

scoobydoo8

Hi,
I got a Bw legal letter for a supposed parking contravention. This was the first letter I have received about a parking fine even though the letter says I ignored a PCN. They said the fine was in December and I only got this first letter now in March.
I have read the newbies thread but can't figure out the correct process in this circumstance. It was an overstay at a retail park and I contacted the shop owner and they said it was too late to cancel it, not surprising as it was 4 months ago.

Who should I appeal to? Bw legal or the landowner? 

Thanks

KeithP

Is this a debt collectors letter? The fourth post of the NEWBIES thread will help you identify such and deal with it.

Who is the parking company?

Where did this alleged parking event take place?

Is the address of the Registered Keeper correct on the vehicle's Registration Document (V5c)?
Please don't guess - check the doc.

scoobydoo8

KeithP said:

Is this a debt collectors letter? The fourth post of the NEWBIES thread will help you identify such and deal with it.

Who is the parking company?

Where did this alleged parking event take place?

Is the address of the Registered Keeper correct on the vehicle's Registration Document (V5c)?
Please don't guess - check the doc.

I think it's a debt collectors letter as it's asking me to pay their client with a £60 debt recovery cost? From bw legal, specialist in legal recoveries.

Parking company is Premier Park ltd and was in a retail park.
The address on the V5c is not completely correct.

beamerguy

You have not been fined ...... just an invoice trying to extort money.

The shop you spoke to is wrong, it can be cancelled at any time

The fake £60 added by BWL is unlawful as BWL have been told by the courts so when you say "specialist in legal recoveries" ...... we chuckle ???

What do you mean ... "The address on the V5c is not completely correct" ?

Study cases from BWL and others who fake claims
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6103933/abuse-of-process-thread-part-2/p1?new=1

Fruitcake

scoobydoo8 said:

KeithP said:

Is this a debt collectors letter? The fourth post of the NEWBIES thread will help you identify such and deal with it.

Who is the parking company?

Where did this alleged parking event take place?

Is the address of the Registered Keeper correct on the vehicle's Registration Document (V5c)?
Please don't guess - check the doc.

I think it's a debt collectors letter as it's asking me to pay their client with a £60 debt recovery cost? From bw legal, specialist in legal recoveries.

Parking company is Premier Park ltd and was in a retail park.
The address on the V5c is not completely correct.

You need to be absolutely sure it is, is not a debt collector letter. Does it mention the words, Letter of CLaim or Letter before Claim, or similar?
To whom does it say the alleged debt should be paid, the scammers, themselves, or another entity entirely.

How incorrect is the V5C? Incorrect spelling of the keepers name is fairly insignificant. The wrong house/flat number or street instead of close etcetera is significant.

Whatever the error, it needs correcting. I believe this can now be done online.

scoobydoo8

beamerguy said:

You have not been fined ...... just an invoice trying to extort money.

The shop you spoke to is wrong, it can be cancelled at any time

The fake £60 added by BWL is unlawful as BWL have been told by the courts so when you say "specialist in legal recoveries" ...... we chuckle ???

What do you mean ... "The address on the V5c is not completely correct" ?

Study cases from BWL and others who fake claims
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6103933/abuse-of-process-thread-part-2/p1?new=1

I spoke to the manager in the shop and he said that he can only cancel it a week or so after the incident. Who can I contact to try again?
"specialist in legal recoveries" is what their letter says they are, certainly not me implying they are lol!

Fruitcake said:
You need to be absolutely sure it is, is not a debt collector letter. Does it mention the words, Letter of CLaim or Letter before Claim, or similar?

To whom does it say the alleged debt should be paid, the scammers, themselves, or another entity entirely.

How incorrect is the V5C? Incorrect spelling of the keepers name is fairly insignificant. The wrong house/flat number or street instead of close etcetera is significant.

Whatever the error, it needs correcting. I believe this can now be done online.

The letter doesn't have those words. This is the letter I received.

nosferatu1001

You KNOW what a letter before claim looks like, bedause the newbies th read tells you. 
So, does thqat letter above match a letter before claim? It is a yes or no
You need to get used to doing your own work on this, as YOU have a potential claim winging your way, so YOU need to know - with the guidance on the newbies thrreead - what you have in front of  you at each point. That means you have to understand, analyse whatever

As for who to contact, no idea, but usually CEOs work quite well. 

scoobydoo8

I'm confused at which party to write to first. It says in the newbies thread that I should exhaust complaints to the retailer first but I never had a chance to complain before this letter from BWL. Do I still try to write to the retailer first or reply to BWL first or do both at the same time? Or do I write to the landowner first? Or all three at the same time lol?

nosferatu1001

Have you answered the above question yet? Do so.
PLAN A is called PLAN A for a reason. It is the first step

scoobydoo8

nosferatu1001 said:

Have you answered the above question yet? Do so.
PLAN A is called PLAN A for a reason. It is the first step

OK, so I don't think this is a letter of claim as it says if you don't contact us or pay then a "Pre-Action Protocol letter before claim" might be sent. So I just ignore BWL for now and proceed to appeal to the landowners for SAR and the retailer for cancellation?

Fruitcake

The complaint goes to the landowner and retail manager/CEO.
The SAR goes to the scammers.
Ignore debt collectors.
Do not ignore real court papers.