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My new smart meter.

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  • MWT
    MWT Posts: 10,346 Forumite
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    Gerry1 said:
    Hasbeen said:
    But when demand outstrips supply, perhaps bad winter and windmills frozen up, solar power down?
    They can selectively cut power through the smart meter network to individual households to keep hospitals, essentials running.
    But it has only cost to date circa £13 Billion  which has been added to every ones power bills.
    But at least we save at the moment an average of the fantastic sum of  approx £11 per year?
    Whoops, you're not supposed to let the cat out of the bag !
    Stand by for a load of abuse from the industry and government shills...
    Gerry, they can do this already, every house in the UK is already assigned to a group that can be cut-off by the DNO from a central point.
    Smart meters give them considerably more granularity in the ability to respond to an emergency situation but make no mistake, with or without a smart meter if they need to cut the power you are going to be cut-off.

  • Gerry1
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    But those with smart meters are likely to suffer first !  ToU surcharges and Load Limiting will be used before Load Shedding cuts off the refuseniks.
    Area wide blackouts for conventional meters will be a last resort.
  • PennyForThem_2
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    Only + for my smart meter which itermittantly seems to send to electricity/gas supplier is that firing up the In House Display to read the meters is a lot easier than reading the actual meters.  Wondershow much it cost to fit meters?
  • Gerry1
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    Wonder how much it cost to fit meters?
    It works out at about £475 per household, just to save about £11 per year. Not exactly a bargain.
  • MWT
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    Gerry1 said:
    But those with smart meters are likely to suffer first !  ToU surcharges and Load Limiting will be used before Load Shedding cuts off the refuseniks.
    Area wide blackouts for conventional meters will be a last resort.
    ToU surcharges come along with ToU discounts so I'm happy to have them there as it has cut ££ off my annual bill already.
    As for the load shedding, you'll find that mandatory smart meters are likely to be required before we get to the point of actually using that capability, so I wouldn't assume that you'll be able to be a hold-out for ever...

  • Gerry1
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    MWT said:
    Gerry1 said:
    But those with smart meters are likely to suffer first !  ToU surcharges and Load Limiting will be used before Load Shedding cuts off the refuseniks.
    Area wide blackouts for conventional meters will be a last resort.
    ToU surcharges come along with ToU discounts so I'm happy to have them there as it has cut ££ off my annual bill already.
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    MWT said:
    Gerry1 said:
    But those with smart meters are likely to suffer first !  ToU surcharges and Load Limiting will be used before Load Shedding cuts off the refuseniks.
    Area wide blackouts for conventional meters will be a last resort.
    As for the load shedding, you'll find that mandatory smart meters are likely to be required before we get to the point of actually using that capability, so I wouldn't assume that you'll be able to be a hold-out for ever...
    I won't be able to avoid the Grim Reaper for ever, but I'm not planning to check out now !
  • milgo
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    I can't see Mr Blue at number 16 being cut off because he has a smart meter and his neighbour Mrs Green at number 18 being left on supply because she doesn't have one! 
  • tim_p
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    milgo said:
    I can't see Mr Blue at number 16 being cut off because he has a smart meter and his neighbour Mrs Green at number 18 being left on supply because she doesn't have one! 
    You’ve forgotten Mr Purple across the road at #19 who has a smart meter but is on an oxygen concentrator and needs an air mattress, think he might have something to say about being cut off (or not, when he is unable to breathe)
    Plenty of people out there totally reliant on power for medical reasons. And no, I don’t know what happens now in the case of a power cut!  Battery backup, but for how long?
  • Robin9
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    tim_p said:
    milgo said:
    I can't see Mr Blue at number 16 being cut off because he has a smart meter and his neighbour Mrs Green at number 18 being left on supply because she doesn't have one! 
    You’ve forgotten Mr Purple across the road at #19 who has a smart meter but is on an oxygen concentrator and needs an air mattress, think he might have something to say about being cut off (or not, when he is unable to breathe)
    Plenty of people out there totally reliant on power for medical reasons. And no, I don’t know what happens now in the case of a power cut!  Battery backup, but for how long?
    When I worked for one of the old Electricity Boards we marked our plans with  Mr Purple's details and when any work was planned we would contact him.    

    Planned work  is one thing but the problem arises with failures either local or national. 
    Never pay on an estimated bill. Always read and understand your bill
  • niktheguru
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    tim_p said:
    milgo said:
    I can't see Mr Blue at number 16 being cut off because he has a smart meter and his neighbour Mrs Green at number 18 being left on supply because she doesn't have one! 
    You’ve forgotten Mr Purple across the road at #19 who has a smart meter but is on an oxygen concentrator and needs an air mattress, think he might have something to say about being cut off (or not, when he is unable to breathe)
    Plenty of people out there totally reliant on power for medical reasons. And no, I don’t know what happens now in the case of a power cut!  Battery backup, but for how long?
    People like this are on the priority services register with the power networks so provisions are made and they are prioritised if power ever goes down. I doubt having a smart meter is going to detriment them.
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