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Planning permission objections

Was hoping for some advise on proposed plans for new building plot for 16 homes on field adjacent to 1970s cul-de-sac where I live. 
The field as been left for many many years as was considered green belt. And since 80s multiple development plans have been rejected by council because of this along with residents objections. However under new housing initiatives by government the land use has changed and to meet building quotas the council have now bought the land and submitted plans to build. Permission has not been sought but we have been made aware of what the initial plans will be. 

The issue I have is the right to access will be from our close from a busy main road. And from our small close two access roads will be made to the new development. Parking is already at times a problem looking at plans two parking spaces at top of cul de sac will be lost as well as at least three spaces on the road making room for new access points.

 We all have garages and there are some other parking bays but not enough for all residents and their cars / vans. The turning on to the close is a blind corner and we have had some near misses with traffic flow and over used street parking as it is. The hedge row / boundary between our estate and the next will be made good but multiple trees (no protection) will be lost.

 I am looking for advice on successfully opposing the council for their own building work, we would look at loss of amenities as being our prime concern. I am also wanting to propose that the new estate has its own entrance onto the main road. All the multiple plans that have been put through over the years have always been access through our close. Has anyone had any experience of opposing lose of amenities in a similar way. 
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  • Doozergirl
    Doozergirl Posts: 34,081 Forumite
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    edited 18 March 2021 at 3:56PM
    You need to wait for the planning application and then check the provision against the Local Authority's own parking requirements for new builds, and also against the national Manual For Streets.  

    My county council also has a Streetscape Design Guide. 

    So for me, I'd need to refer to District Council, County Council and national guidelines to assess whether the layout meets all criteria - parking provision, turning circles for bin lorries and fire appliances.   Width of pathways, roadways etc. 

    If you're going to complain, you're best to measure it directly against policy.  Doing the planning officer's work for them, but someone has to do it, as they don't always.  

    I've done the same and failed.  Had a nice stand off with the highways officer from the county council at the beginning of a planning committee who stood there and lied that the proposal met standards.  It didn't in several ways.  

    Stuff happens. 




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  • FabFifty
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    As per Doozergirl. Once submitted check the proposed development plans against local and national policies and guidelines.
  • FreeBear
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    Had a development of some 70 houses on a brown field site within eyesight of my home. The locals objected on a number of grounds including traffic and site access. Aside from a couple of small changes to the plans, the development was granted and went ahead.
    To be honest, even with 70+ houses, there hasn't been a noticeable increase in traffic or any accidents on the access roads. The locals have benefited from a green space that the new residents pay for through their fleecehold charges.
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  • edgex
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    1. Get organised.
    Set up an email list or WhatsApp group for interested residents. When the plans are available, you can then send them to everyone at the same time.

    2. Find out why previous plans were rejected.

    3. When you come up with objections, also come up with alternatives.
    eg. You've mentioned using a cul-de-sac as the access, why can't the new development have it's own access? They'll have to build one for construction traffic won't they ;)
  • Ganga
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    We had a similar situation years ago ,they were going to build a new estate at the top of our street ( cul de sac ) and we thought that access would be past our houses making a small road into a trunk road ( ok i am exaggerating ) but made an appointment with our local council ,was shown the plans and NO access thru our estate and some nice houses built on wasted land ,was farm land many many years ago.
  • twopenny
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    It has become a nightmare in our area with building on green land, boundaries with NP land and so on.
    The way it was taken in my cul de sac was the access. Road access would have been through the tennis club to the plot of land owned by a charity. The tennis club bought the land and made it private. No public access at all. There in the builders lost their market because no one want's to park on a main road and walk to their house via the current lane.
    This also worked for a field that was surrounded by houses on 4 sides. No one would give up their land for access.
    Is there a possibility of buying the plots of land that the access is going through? Would need to be done quickly before planning goes in.

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  • ic
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    On a development near me that added a new junction to a busy road, several spaces were lost due to the introduction of double yellow lines protecting the junction on both sides of the main road.  The developers as part of their planning provided four or five spaces within the car park for the flats dedicated to replace what was lost - in addition to the spaces they were providing for residents and their visitors.  I'm sure there's still arguments over those spaces, as no development ever seems to have enough spaces.
  • scolsie
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    Thanks for feedback, letters were sent today to all residents asking them if they wish to join a group opposing changes.  

    Will check Local and district policies, will also look into manoeuvrability for emergency vehicles etc. 

    Past permission was always rejected as was a green site. Not sure if the development will use an access road to build or not. The field has main road on one side, church land to the back, further field to one side owned by council also used for firework displays etc and then our Close on other side. No plots of land available as pavement runs up one side then fence / trees/ hedge then field. 

    As the developers are the council not sure they will provide extra spaces for those taken ? But worth looking into, the 10 houses they are building will have 18 parking spaces the 6 flats have have 10. We have 13 houses with 14 spaces plus road parking but will loose 2 spaces and half of road parking.  Thanks again
  • Cash-Cows
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    There's no right of existing residents to park on the street so as long as the new development meets requirements in terms of number of spaces, layout, visibility etc then in highway terms it will be acceptable. 
  • Doozergirl
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    Are you sure they're not going to use the main road for the access?  
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