Land registry

lucyplease

Hi, this doesn’t quite fit here but I couldn’t see a better place to post. 

I downloaded a copy of the land registry for our house today. We have a shared alley way at the side of our house (it’s on the right of the picture) and our house is also above the alley way. I wasn’t sure if our garden also went to the end of the ally as I noticed next doors fence is slightly over. Looking at the land registry it looks like this is correct so that’s ok I think. 

When looking at the document I just wondered what the lines at the end of the garden mean? Is this to do with who is responsible for the fences?

Just curious really! 

Thank you 

princeofpounds

It's not as obvious to the rest of us what is your house, your garden etc. in this picture.

And no, the lines at the end of your garden, whichever ones you mean, probably do not mean responsibility for fences. If that were the case the marks would be defined in the title deeds (and would be more obvious symbols on the plan itself)

If you can explain a little what we are looking at in the plan - perhaps by annotating or shading the picture yourself - we might be able to give you a better answer. 

greatcrested

Your house is 'on th right of the picture'? So not the house outlined in red?

And where's the alley?

Maybe I'm being dense but I can't make it out.

I imagine the lines at the end of the garden mark the end of your land. But as I'm lost it's hard to say!

davidmcn

lucyplease said:

When looking at the document I just wondered what the lines at the end of the garden mean? 

They're whatever is on the base Ordnance Survey map for the property, so presumably show boundary features or structures of some sort - perhaps no longer there. Nothing legal.

lucyplease

Ha sorry you are right I haven't explained it at all! 

The red was already highlighted as our boundary. 

Yellow is our house and front garden 
Green is the shared alley 
Orange is the shared walkway access access all of the gardens to the alley 

I just wondered if the lines I have circled in blue at the back of the garden meant anything but doesn’t look like they do. 

Originally I thought we might be able to gain access from the back of our garden but have since found out that it’s private and owned by a few of the houses on the street behind. 

Sorry for the lines not being great too- I can never get on with the iPhone mark up tool!

greatcrested

The lines at the top of your garden are all within your (red) boundary. As said they are probably off the ordnace survey map and may reflect so physical feature (or it may have now gone). Irrelevant.

The (green) shared alley appears to go through, or under, your house, so I assume you own the alley itself and your neighbour (and others?) have a ROW along it.

Is your query about gaining access to

* the land beyond the (yellow) rear alley? This is all clearly within your red boundary so is yours-of course you can gain access.

* the area at the rear of that land (blue circle)? This is all also clearly within your red boundary so is yours - of course you can gain access.

Not sure why you say "found out that it’s private and owned by a few of the houses on the street behind. ". Or are you referring to the yellow alley itself? This also appears to be included in your red boundary, though it's not that clear. That's unusual, suggesting as it does that each house owns a small section of that yellow alley, presumably with others having a ROW.

sheramber

So your back garden  is beyond the walkway and goes to the end of the red box?
Where did you think you could get access from? The land behind appears to be the garden of a house behind you and the land either side presumably is the gardens   of your neighbours.

daveyjp

Have a look on 
https://www.old-maps.co.uk/#/
and see if anything is shown in the garden from previous years.  

lucyplease

Thanks greatcrested. 

I was mainly wondering what the lines where I have circled in blue meant if anything. I had a quick look online and seemed to be maybe who owns the fences but could be an old structure perhaps (shed etc) 

I have always wondered about the shared alley.  It does run under our house but I believe all the houses own the alley to have access. 

Sorry the bit I meant I found out a few houses on the street behind own is the land behind the red line at the back of the garden. 

I thought maybe the circled lines perhaps meant there used to be access from the back of the garden (if maybe a garage used to be there) but doesn’t seem to be the case. 

I was more curious to what all the lines meant really and included too many questions in my original post that didn’t really make sense with the image! Thanks for answering  

greatcrested

lucyplease said:

Thanks greatcrested. 

I was mainly wondering what the lines where I have circled in blue meant if anything. I had a quick look online and seemed to be maybe who owns the fences but could be an old structure perhaps (shed etc) Yes. Ignore. Whatever is now there is yours
I have always wondered about the shared alley.  It does run under our house but I believe all the houses own the alley to have access. Unlikely. You own it. They have a ROW through it I imagine. Does it not say anything in the Title document? Or the neighbour's?

Sorry the bit I meant I found out a few houses on the street behind own is the land behind the red line at the back of the garden. Well yes. Clearly not your so someone else's!

I thought maybe the circled lines perhaps meant there used to be access from the back of the garden (if maybe a garage used to be there) but doesn’t seem to be the case. Anything is historically possible, but it's history now.

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lucyplease

Sheramber, it’s not a garden beyond the red line at the back although you can’t tell from the image. It a bit of land and then their garden. The bit of land leads to a road. We spoke to someone on that street who advised that 2 of the houses now own that land as they purchased it from a couple of the other houses on that street. 

I was just curious if the circled line the image meant anything to do with access but doesn’t look like it.