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I'll bet they do, Alexland, there's a wide spread between buy and sell prices at the open so, even if you have already made up your mind to act, better to wait. And you can buy and sell shares in companies like Tesla and Apple 24 hrs a day but, again, spreads are wide before Wall St opens at 14:30.
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MDMD said:Thrugelmir said:MDMD said:Alexland said:ZingPowZing said:https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/quote/SMT.L?p=SMT.L&.tsrc=fin-srch
Price 1,017.00
Not sure how that works, can you still buy at that price given yesterday's USA rally afterwards?
Let us know on Monday. Good luck anyway!0 -
Thrugelmir said:MDMD said:Thrugelmir said:MDMD said:Alexland said:ZingPowZing said:https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/quote/SMT.L?p=SMT.L&.tsrc=fin-srch
Price 1,017.00
Not sure how that works, can you still buy at that price given yesterday's USA rally afterwards?
Let us know on Monday. Good luck anyway!0 -
MDMD said:Thrugelmir said:MDMD said:Thrugelmir said:MDMD said:Alexland said:ZingPowZing said:https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/quote/SMT.L?p=SMT.L&.tsrc=fin-srch
Price 1,017.00
Not sure how that works, can you still buy at that price given yesterday's USA rally afterwards?
Let us know on Monday. Good luck anyway!0 -
Sorcerer2018 said:I am intrigued when you say you think it's 20-30% too expensive, how are you working that out. Because unless I analyse everything single investment the company owns in detail, I can't work out how you could deem to be either too cheep or too expensive. With added issue of market sentiment effected the share price, how do you take this into consideration when analysing the price. Is it 20-30% based on NAV or Share Price for example. Or is it just a gut feeling? If it's a gut feeling how do you know your gut is correct without data to back that up.
So in summary, my assessment is based on some analysis of the fundamentals, some assessment of the charts, MA's, resistance/support etc, some consideration of what may have fuelled the rise, general market sentiment, and the need for such a fund in my portfolio relative to current holdings and risk tolerance.0 -
Alexland said:ZingPowZing said:I'm not invested but imagine the price takes its lead from the principal holdings? Would think it prudent not to buy or sell before 10am or until you can see which way the pre-market indicates for NASDAQ, Tesla especially? Currently ticking up, with SMT in tow.It's not something I would be interested in buying either but I like to watch movements in concentrated style portfolios from the sidelines to help understand what is happening in the markets. The problem I have always found with premarket data is that by the time you see it everyone else has too so that quickly gets factored into the price you pay when trading ETFs/ITs containing those assets. There is usually still a bit of movement when the markets actually open as the premarket data is only a rough guide to what might happen. I never setup a purchase for the start of trading as I can see from the data that some people end up getting really bad prices.
When WB announced streaming movies, I and many thousands others were ready on their sell button for Cine on monday 0800. They tanked 30% at one point.
Obviously in hindsight I regret this as they rallied significantly. But is certainly a lesson for individual shares for me. You simply cannot tell which share will rally or continue to tank.
Look at EQT, people made a lot of money, but they are tanking badly. I wonder whether it was from market switching/ adjusting or pump and dump strategy"It is prudent when shopping for something important, not to limit yourself to Pound land/Estate Agents"
G_M/ Bowlhead99 RIP0 -
csgohan4 said:Alexland said:ZingPowZing said:I'm not invested but imagine the price takes its lead from the principal holdings? Would think it prudent not to buy or sell before 10am or until you can see which way the pre-market indicates for NASDAQ, Tesla especially? Currently ticking up, with SMT in tow.It's not something I would be interested in buying either but I like to watch movements in concentrated style portfolios from the sidelines to help understand what is happening in the markets. The problem I have always found with premarket data is that by the time you see it everyone else has too so that quickly gets factored into the price you pay when trading ETFs/ITs containing those assets. There is usually still a bit of movement when the markets actually open as the premarket data is only a rough guide to what might happen. I never setup a purchase for the start of trading as I can see from the data that some people end up getting really bad prices.
When WB announced streaming movies, I and many thousands others were ready on their sell button for Cine on monday 0800. Obviously in hindsight I regret this as they rallied significantly. But is certainly a lesson for individual shares for me.0 -
Thrugelmir said:csgohan4 said:Alexland said:ZingPowZing said:I'm not invested but imagine the price takes its lead from the principal holdings? Would think it prudent not to buy or sell before 10am or until you can see which way the pre-market indicates for NASDAQ, Tesla especially? Currently ticking up, with SMT in tow.It's not something I would be interested in buying either but I like to watch movements in concentrated style portfolios from the sidelines to help understand what is happening in the markets. The problem I have always found with premarket data is that by the time you see it everyone else has too so that quickly gets factored into the price you pay when trading ETFs/ITs containing those assets. There is usually still a bit of movement when the markets actually open as the premarket data is only a rough guide to what might happen. I never setup a purchase for the start of trading as I can see from the data that some people end up getting really bad prices.
When WB announced streaming movies, I and many thousands others were ready on their sell button for Cine on monday 0800. Obviously in hindsight I regret this as they rallied significantly. But is certainly a lesson for individual shares for me.
I like many others here have made mistakes and learning in handling with individual shares. It certainly isn't for beginners, especially if you want to sleep at night. But still good to be invested in your money and know how to make it grow. Always good to see your money grow from decisions you made.
If it wasn't for Covid, all my money would be index trackers and satellites"It is prudent when shopping for something important, not to limit yourself to Pound land/Estate Agents"
G_M/ Bowlhead99 RIP0 -
Thrugelmir said:csgohan4 said:Alexland said:ZingPowZing said:I'm not invested but imagine the price takes its lead from the principal holdings? Would think it prudent not to buy or sell before 10am or until you can see which way the pre-market indicates for NASDAQ, Tesla especially? Currently ticking up, with SMT in tow.It's not something I would be interested in buying either but I like to watch movements in concentrated style portfolios from the sidelines to help understand what is happening in the markets. The problem I have always found with premarket data is that by the time you see it everyone else has too so that quickly gets factored into the price you pay when trading ETFs/ITs containing those assets. There is usually still a bit of movement when the markets actually open as the premarket data is only a rough guide to what might happen. I never setup a purchase for the start of trading as I can see from the data that some people end up getting really bad prices.
When WB announced streaming movies, I and many thousands others were ready on their sell button for Cine on monday 0800. Obviously in hindsight I regret this as they rallied significantly. But is certainly a lesson for individual shares for me.1 -
csgohan4 said:Thrugelmir said:csgohan4 said:Alexland said:ZingPowZing said:I'm not invested but imagine the price takes its lead from the principal holdings? Would think it prudent not to buy or sell before 10am or until you can see which way the pre-market indicates for NASDAQ, Tesla especially? Currently ticking up, with SMT in tow.It's not something I would be interested in buying either but I like to watch movements in concentrated style portfolios from the sidelines to help understand what is happening in the markets. The problem I have always found with premarket data is that by the time you see it everyone else has too so that quickly gets factored into the price you pay when trading ETFs/ITs containing those assets. There is usually still a bit of movement when the markets actually open as the premarket data is only a rough guide to what might happen. I never setup a purchase for the start of trading as I can see from the data that some people end up getting really bad prices.
When WB announced streaming movies, I and many thousands others were ready on their sell button for Cine on monday 0800. Obviously in hindsight I regret this as they rallied significantly. But is certainly a lesson for individual shares for me.
I like many others here have made mistakes and learning in handling with individual shares. It certainly isn't for beginners, especially if you want to sleep at night. But still good to be invested in your money and know how to make it grow. Always good to see your money grow from decisions you made.
If it wasn't for Covid, all my money would be index trackers and satellites
Even without Covid , there'll always be an unloved sector of the markets. Dumb hot money follows the trends. Nothing wrong in that. As long as one remembers that those who got into the lift at the ground floor will be progressively getting out. As the lift rises up through the floors.0
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