Local government payrise 21/22

thatoldchestnut

Just want to clarify: does the public sector pay freeze (well, partial freeze, there's a minimum £250pa rise for workers on £24,500 and under) cover local government? I see the unions are asking for 10% again and the government say they won't respond until after the May local elections are over (https://www.localgov.co.uk/Employers-branded-a-disgrace-over-council-pay-delay/51929). Is local government pay a totally separate negotiation?

ahfat41

Interested to know as well. Due to annual increment in April? Does this count as a pay freeze? Thanks

Marcon

There's a neat little summary of how the various public sector pay awards are determined/by whom at the top of this document: https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-8037/

thatoldchestnut

Ah okay, that does suggest it's separate. Guess we'll wait to see what happens over the next few months then.

TELLIT01

Local government is certainly public sector so I would be surprised if either the rules aren't the same, or LAs apply the same rules.  As for the union asking for 10% that's just more evidence that they live in a parallel universe!

strawb_shortcake

During the last pay freeze increments were paid, however increments were  only kept by some government departments which was quite a bone of contention for those departments where the increments were removed and they had more of a pay freeze than others.
But I guess other departments may be subject to having their incremental pay removed going forward, possibly not the NHS though...

Barny1979

The last two years the pay rises have been agreed around October of 2019 and 2020 and then back-dated in December to start of April of that year. Increments are not affected, you will still step into your next payscale in the grade/band.

TELLIT01

Barny1979 said:

The last two years the pay rises have been agreed around October of 2019 and 2020 and then back-dated in December to start of April of that year. Increments are not affected, you will still step into your next payscale in the grade/band.

Increments were certainly affected in DWP, I don't know about other areas of the public sector.  Many people got no pay increases at all for a number of years.

Barny1979

TELLIT01 said:

Barny1979 said:

The last two years the pay rises have been agreed around October of 2019 and 2020 and then back-dated in December to start of April of that year. Increments are not affected, you will still step into your next payscale in the grade/band.

Increments were certainly affected in DWP, I don't know about other areas of the public sector.  Many people got no pay increases at all for a number of years.

They haven't been in Local Authorities (Councils).

sammyjammy

annabanana82 said:

During the last pay freeze increments were paid, however increments were  only kept by some government departments which was quite a bone of contention for those departments where the increments were removed and they had more of a pay freeze than others.
But I guess other departments may be subject to having their incremental pay removed going forward, possibly not the NHS though...

Don't quote me but I think NHS are the only ones that still have increments, we haven't had them in DWP for over 10 years.

ETA I'm referring to Central Gov depts not Local Government.  

Gavin83

TELLIT01 said:

As for the union asking for 10% that's just more evidence that they live in a parallel universe!

Could be worse, the nursing union asked for 12.5%.