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Do I really need an electrician for this?

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  • EssexExile
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    As Risteard says, if it was suitable for a 13A plug it would have one fitted.
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  • Risteard said:
    A 3kW load is not suitable for a plug and socket arrangement other than for short duration. A kettle only runs for a couple of minutes at a time. If a plugtop was suitable then it would be supplied with one fitted by law. 
    Although you're right that it's by law now, I've lost count of the number of 3 bar electric fires that I've seen on full power over the years... These weren't supplied with fitted plugs but you usually got a "free gift" of one thrown in the box.
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  • Grenage
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    And everyone knows a heavy smoker who lived into their 90s.  Why disregard the regs when doing it properly is barely more effort than wiring a plug?
  • Curry’s web site states needs to be wired to a fused spur which makes sense seeing as there is no plug already fitted
  • Belenus
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    edited 16 February 2021 at 7:08PM
    The OP should take notice of what Neff advise rather than Currys.

    NiceDream, how easy would it be for you to fit and use a fused spur rather than a plug and socket?


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  • Ectophile
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    Risteard said:
    A 3kW load is not suitable for a plug and socket arrangement other than for short duration. A kettle only runs for a couple of minutes at a time. If a plugtop was suitable then it would be supplied with one fitted by law. 

    I've just looked at my AEG oven.  Strangely, it says 3.5kW on it.  Yet it came fitted with a 13A plug, and is plugged into a 13A socket.  Nothing has gone bang yet.
    In practice, it heats up within about 12 minutes, so is never going to melt a 13A plug and socket in that time.
    If it sticks, force it.
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  • Risteard
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    Ectophile said:
    Risteard said:
    A 3kW load is not suitable for a plug and socket arrangement other than for short duration. A kettle only runs for a couple of minutes at a time. If a plugtop was suitable then it would be supplied with one fitted by law. 

    I've just looked at my AEG oven.  Strangely, it says 3.5kW on it.  Yet it came fitted with a 13A plug, and is plugged into a 13A socket.  Nothing has gone bang yet.
    In practice, it heats up within about 12 minutes, so is never going to melt a 13A plug and socket in that time.

    That will be because the 3.5kW quoted is the "total connected load". This probably cannot be simultaneously energised. It's why power ratings on ovens can be extremely misleading. And also elements will cycle on and off diversifying the load.
  • Norman_Castle
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    Risteard said:
    Ectophile said:
    Risteard said:
    A 3kW load is not suitable for a plug and socket arrangement other than for short duration. A kettle only runs for a couple of minutes at a time. If a plugtop was suitable then it would be supplied with one fitted by law. 

    I've just looked at my AEG oven.  Strangely, it says 3.5kW on it.  Yet it came fitted with a 13A plug, and is plugged into a 13A socket.  Nothing has gone bang yet.
    In practice, it heats up within about 12 minutes, so is never going to melt a 13A plug and socket in that time.

    That will be because the 3.5kW quoted is the "total connected load". This probably cannot be simultaneously energised. It's why power ratings on ovens can be extremely misleading. And also elements will cycle on and off diversifying the load.
    What does that mean?

  • neilmcl
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    Risteard said:
    Ectophile said:
    Risteard said:
    A 3kW load is not suitable for a plug and socket arrangement other than for short duration. A kettle only runs for a couple of minutes at a time. If a plugtop was suitable then it would be supplied with one fitted by law. 

    I've just looked at my AEG oven.  Strangely, it says 3.5kW on it.  Yet it came fitted with a 13A plug, and is plugged into a 13A socket.  Nothing has gone bang yet.
    In practice, it heats up within about 12 minutes, so is never going to melt a 13A plug and socket in that time.

    That will be because the 3.5kW quoted is the "total connected load". This probably cannot be simultaneously energised. It's why power ratings on ovens can be extremely misleading. And also elements will cycle on and off diversifying the load.
    As is the oven the OP has got:
    • Energy efficiency rating (acc. EU Nr. 65/2014): A
      Energy consumption per cycle in conventional mode: 0.97 kWh
      Energy consumption per cycle in fan-forced convection mode: 0.81 kWh
      Number of cavities: Main cavity
      Heat source: electrical
      Cavity volume: 71 litre
    • Total connected load electric: 2.99 KW
    • 120 cm Cable length
    • Nominal voltage: 220 - 240 V
    • Appliance dimension (hxwxd): 595 mm x 594 mm x 548 mm
    • Niche dimension (hxwxd): 585 mm - 595 mm x 560 mm - 568 mm x 550 mm
    • Please refer to the dimensions provided in the installation manual
  • Risteard
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    Risteard said:
    Ectophile said:
    Risteard said:
    A 3kW load is not suitable for a plug and socket arrangement other than for short duration. A kettle only runs for a couple of minutes at a time. If a plugtop was suitable then it would be supplied with one fitted by law. 

    I've just looked at my AEG oven.  Strangely, it says 3.5kW on it.  Yet it came fitted with a 13A plug, and is plugged into a 13A socket.  Nothing has gone bang yet.
    In practice, it heats up within about 12 minutes, so is never going to melt a 13A plug and socket in that time.

    That will be because the 3.5kW quoted is the "total connected load". This probably cannot be simultaneously energised. It's why power ratings on ovens can be extremely misleading. And also elements will cycle on and off diversifying the load.
    What does that mean?


    For example the oven and grill are unlikely to be able to be energised at the one time, but both have probably been included in this "total connected load".
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