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POPLA appeal - NTK and ANPR

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  • Fruitcake
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    Quidz said:
    Sorry going back to my original issue - is NTK applicable? Is that a defense. I feel issue one on this occasion is enough but if got cards to play I'd like to play them.
    Thank you

    The NTK looks PoFA compliant, so the keeper can be held liable, therefore there is no mileage in challenging it.

    Remaining PoPLA appeal points are: -
    Not the landowner
    No standing to issue charges
    Inadequate signage
    BPA CoP failures
    Lack of grace period - maybe
    Drivng around looking for a space is not parking - if applicable

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  • Coupon-mad
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    The NTK is POFA compliant, as everyone has told you already.  CEL have changed their wording.  

    A complaint to the landowner is the best bet because I can't see POPLA being on your side.
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  • D_P_Dance
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    Have you complained to your MP?  
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  • Quidz
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    D_P_Dance said:
    Have you complained to your MP?  
    Yes - got a standard reply saying MP inundated at the moment and I will received a response at earliest possible opportunity.
  • Quidz
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    Coupon-mad said:
    The NTK is POFA compliant, as everyone has told you already.  CEL have changed their wording.  

    A complaint to the landowner is the best bet because I can't see POPLA being on your side.
    Can I please ask why you can't see POPLA being on my side?
  • D_P_Dance
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    Probably because PoPLA get it wrong very often.  Many of their assessors are young Law Graduates unable to get training positions in solicitors offices and pupilages in Chambers,  In other words, they are not up to snuff.

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  • Umkomaas
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    D_P_Dance said:
    Probably because PoPLA get it wrong very often.  Many of their assessors are young Law Graduates former nail technicians, call centre battery hens, and even a budding writer of adult books, but I've never noticed any 'young Law Graduates'. In other words, they are not up to snuff.

    Fixed that for you!
    @Quidz wrote:

    Can I please ask why you can't see POPLA being on my side?
    Why do you think they would be on your side?
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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  • D_P_Dance
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    Love it, more!
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  • Umkomaas
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    D_P_Dance said:
    Love it, more!
    But it's the truth/reality @D_P_Dance. The actual young Law Graduates were recruited by and employed by POPLA #1 (London Councils) - and did a far better job once they started to understand the private parking sector and the laws around it - not POPLA #2 (Ombudsman Services). 
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

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