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Stay 5-10 minutes after shift finish.

My daughter works in a care home and she has been told to stay 5-10 mins past her finish time. She getting bullied by the supervisor and the manager as well. Can they insist on her staying 5-10 mins after her finish time?
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  • Only if they pay her.

    What about her finishing tasks 10 minutes early to facilitate washing and changing out of uniform.
  • Slips36
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    oh_really said:
    Only if they pay her.

    What about her finishing tasks 10 minutes early to facilitate washing and changing out of uniform.
    No they don’t get time to change out of uniform, they have to get home and change.
    lot depends on what kind of supervisor and manager in place. 
  • oh_really
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    edited 10 February 2021 at 3:58PM
    Is she being paid for the additional hours? Why is this being required especially as an ongoing arrangement? Does this take ger pay below NMW?
  • Marcon
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    edited 10 February 2021 at 4:34PM
    Why do they want her to stay? If it's just a way of getting an extra hour a week out of her on an unpaid basis then that does sound a bit unfair, but five minutes to do a handover sounds pretty reasonable. 
    Googling on your question might have been both quicker and easier, if you're only after simple facts rather than opinions!  
  • Thrugelmir
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    People that walk out the door on the dot. Will be unproductive in the time beforehand. Intentionally looking busy doing nothing when they aren't. Is the oldest trick in the book. Management may well have issues with other staff members. Hence the policy. 
  • oh_really
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    edited 10 February 2021 at 4:52PM
    Management may well have issues with other staff members. Hence the policy. 

    Then deal with the actual problem. In a care home, especially, staff are required to be supervised, where is the supervision?

    2.2 from the employers code of practice for social care workers states "effectively manage and supervise staff".

  • GHolmesAdmin
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    edited 10 February 2021 at 5:00PM
    If that extra time takes her below minimum wage then it might be worth her expressing her 'concern' to them that they might get into trouble - big fine - if they have her working over her agreed paid hours. And yes if it continues report them for not paying at least minimum wage. I would.
  • Slips36 said:
    oh_really said:
    Only if they pay her.

    What about her finishing tasks 10 minutes early to facilitate washing and changing out of uniform.
    No they don’t get time to change out of uniform, they have to get home and change.
    lot depends on what kind of supervisor and manager in place. 
    This is so wrong.

    I worked in a Nursing Home and staff were not allowed to travel in their uniforms, neither on public transport nor in their own vehicles. 

    They did have to take their uniforms with them though and launder them at home whereas I always thought the Home's laundry service should have been used.  That's for hygiene reasons, not cost.
  • oh_really
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    edited 10 February 2021 at 5:36PM
    Re uniforms, the welfare regs (23) require employers to provide accomodation for clothing and (24) provide adequate facilities for changing clothing. the ACoP and guidance notes provide the detail of the requirements. Its not advice, its law.

    Does her employer actually have a uniform policy?

  • TELLIT01
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    People that walk out the door on the dot. Will be unproductive in the time beforehand. Intentionally looking busy doing nothing when they aren't. Is the oldest trick in the book. Management may well have issues with other staff members. Hence the policy. 
    The OP hasn't said that all staff are expected to stay after their shift has ended, so there is nothing to say this is 'policy'.  If the shift ends at 5pm for example, the employer has no right to expect the staff member to be available after that time.

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