Make Me A Winner - General Chat

Comping_Rich

jjmmww1 said:

gdmoney said:

jjmmww1 said:

Thanks all i don't mind the wait but wondered if it could ill be getting all my entrys for today and then all 176 entrys on 2 phones for the 250k next draw

It's 176 entries per person not per number so if you enter the maximum number on 2 separate phones you will be breaking the rules and could have the prize withdrawn.

From FAQs.

"As per our terms and conditions, there will be an entry limit – per entrant – for each competition. If you are found to be entering more than the entry limit on multiple devices, you may be found to be in breach of the terms and conditions and could be disqualified."

RagdollPigeon said:

jjmmww1 said:

Thanks all i don't mind the wait but wondered if it could ill be getting all my entrys for today and then all 176 entrys on 2 phones for the 250k next draw

This is known as "cheating"

Not sure why this would be cheating as it would be 2 people entering. Just sounded like i would be using 2 phones to do it. I don't have the time for that 

You could be disqualified if you use 2 phone to enter, you should only enter on 1 phone and if the other person wishes to enter let them enter themselvs.

All entrants must enter on their own behalf and may not enter on behalf of anyone else.  If we later become aware that the person who played the competition was not the entrant themselves, we will disqualify this entrant and no prize will be payable to any persons involved.

Blulu

Can see both sides to this one. In discussion on the forum, it is absolutely right to speak out against rule breaking. But the rule was clearly made to deter people from gaining extra entries by using two phones. Saving your partner time by doing the dialling for them is probably more against the letter of the law than the spirit of it. What I mean is, there can be a subtle difference between ‘rule breaking’ and ‘cheating’.

Cheating is quite a harsh word to use here, in my opinion. On the forum we should be seen not to encourage rule breaking (and/or cheating) but we should also be wary of making anyone feel attacked, just for raising an issue.

Blu XXX

sully1311

Comping_Rich said:

jjmmww1 said:

gdmoney said:

jjmmww1 said:

Thanks all i don't mind the wait but wondered if it could ill be getting all my entrys for today and then all 176 entrys on 2 phones for the 250k next draw

It's 176 entries per person not per number so if you enter the maximum number on 2 separate phones you will be breaking the rules and could have the prize withdrawn.

From FAQs.

"As per our terms and conditions, there will be an entry limit – per entrant – for each competition. If you are found to be entering more than the entry limit on multiple devices, you may be found to be in breach of the terms and conditions and could be disqualified."

RagdollPigeon said:

jjmmww1 said:

Thanks all i don't mind the wait but wondered if it could ill be getting all my entrys for today and then all 176 entrys on 2 phones for the 250k next draw

This is known as "cheating"

Not sure why this would be cheating as it would be 2 people entering. Just sounded like i would be using 2 phones to do it. I don't have the time for that 

You could be disqualified if you use 2 phone to enter, you should only enter on 1 phone and if the other person wishes to enter let them enter themselvs.

All entrants must enter on their own behalf and may not enter on behalf of anyone else.  If we later become aware that the person who played the competition was not the entrant themselves, we will disqualify this entrant and no prize will be payable to any persons involved.

Whilst against the rules, how can they police this (as long as the winner doesn't let slip?)

gdmoney

Blulu said:

Can see both sides to this one. In discussion on the forum, it is absolutely right to speak out against rule breaking. But the rule was clearly made to deter people from gaining extra entries by using two phones. Saving your partner time by doing the dialling for them is probably more against the letter of the law than the spirit of it. What I mean is, there can be a subtle difference between ‘rule breaking’ and ‘cheating’.

Cheating is quite a harsh word to use here, in my opinion. On the forum we should be seen not to encourage rule breaking (and/or cheating) but we should also be wary of making anyone feel attacked, just for raising an issue.

Blu XXX

The first comment was "Thanks all i don't mind the wait but wondered if it could ill be getting all my entrys for today and then all 176 entrys on 2 phones for the 250k next draw." Note. My highlighting - and there is no mention of the second phone being someone else's. 

The first suggestion that the second phone was for another person only came when people pointed out that the use of 2 phones by one entrant would be against the rules.

"Not sure why this would be cheating as it would be 2 people entering. Just sounded like i would be using 2 phones to do it. I don't have the time for that."

If the person is only using one phone and doesn't have time to make all the calls on 2 phones, then why mention the second phone at all? They clearly aren't saving their partner time by dialling for them because they have already said that they don't have the time to do that.

pate-ci0

Blulu said:

@gdmoney why do you get off on attacking people so much? Just asking. 

I would just like to make the observation that my first impression was similar to gdmoney's and also was tempted to point out that the use of two phones was against the rules. Now that the point has been made, maybe we should just let it all lie. Whether the use of multiple phones by the same person could be detected or not (and there are theoretically at least a couple of ways that it might be eg registration, ip address  etc), it is against the rules. The language used to describe that can be interpreted  by different people in different ways.

Blulu

pate-ci0 said:

Blulu said:

@gdmoney why do you get off on attacking people so much? Just asking. 

I would just like to make the observation that my first impression was similar to gdmoney's and also was tempted to point out that the use of two phones was against the rules. Now that the point has been made, maybe we should just let it all lie. Whether the use of multiple phones by the same person could be detected or not (and there are theoretically at least a couple of ways that it might be eg registration, ip address  etc), it is against the rules. The language used to describe that can be interpreted  by different people in different ways.

That’s really the point I was trying to make. It’s right to explain the rules to someone, but we shouldn’t make it sound like a hanging offence. MSE has rules too, about speaking kindly and respectfully to each other. So, perhaps we should let it lie now?

Blu XXX

MSE_JC

Hi all,

I just wanted to pop up with a general gentle reminder that the Forum is intended to be a safe, welcoming place for all our Forumites - and this particular corner of it should be especially fun and friendly. While it’s inevitable that the odd disagreement might crop up, please remember we’re all here to help and support each other, share insights and celebrate successes.

If you feel someone is not conducting themselves in the spirit of the Forum’s rules, please let the Forum Team know and refrain from responding in kind. Likewise, before you tap that 'Post Comment' button, have a think about how your post might be read by other users. Could your tone be a bit softer? Could you express your opinion in a more civil way? Is it something that even needs a response? The Forum Team often encounter situations where things have escalated unnecessarily and no action would have been needed if users had taken a breath, let cooler heads prevail or chalked something up to crossed wires rather than ill intention. I'm sure we can all agree that the internet - and indeed the world - would be a much nicer place if we opted to choose kindness first.

As some food for thought, philosopher Johann Wolfgang von Goethe once wrote that “misunderstandings and lethargy perhaps produce more wrong in the world than deceit and malice do. At any rate, the latter two are certainly rarer.”

All the best,

MSE JC

One-Eye

MSE_JC said:

As some food for thought, philosopher Johann Wolfgang von Goethe once wrote that “misunderstandings and lethargy perhaps produce more wrong in the world than deceit and malice do. At any rate, the latter two are certainly rarer.”

WOW - Goethe makes an appearance in Chat Corner. What next? Should we all brush up on our Latin?

gdmoney

Point taken.

“By seeking and blundering we learn.” Johann Wolfgang von Goethe.

pallyman

Just checking,do we still say make me a winner,thanks