'Letter before claim'

Redx

All your assumptions above are wrong , the newbies FAQ sticky thread post one explains appeal stage one , post 3 explains appeal 2

It's too late to appeal , that ship sailed 7 months ago when you followed stupid advice and not our advice on here

No appeal can be made , period

Chances are the PCN and signage said £100 , not £70 , then another £70 debt collector fee was added to make £170 , but that is a made up sum

You cannot demand anything , I gave you 2 jobs to do right away and 2 sets of reading to do as well , it's clear that you haven't followed my instructions due to your follow up questions

You can expect a court claim in march , that is m opinion , so start preparing , do your research , do the SAR , obtain pictures of the signage , gather your evidence

It is not a fine , it's too late to appeal , yes Smart and CST law can take you to Court

D_P_Dance

You need to take this seriously, these companies could ruin your life.  

joebloggs123456

I have already sent what you have said and will go from there. I am just trying to find out in advance what the next stages are but that thread for me is not easy to follow im sorry.

Redx

A court claim is the next stage , when you receive a court claim pack from the CCBC in Northampton , Google the acronym MCOL

joebloggs123456

Redx said:

A court claim is the next stage , when you receive a court claim pack from the CCBC in Northampton , Google the acronym MCOL

Thank you

Coupon-mad

joebloggs123456 said:

I have already sent what you have said and will go from there. I am just trying to find out in advance what the next stages are but that thread for me is not easy to follow im sorry.

It is if you just read post #2 of it about pre-court and court.

This would have been a cinch to win at appeal with one email.  So frustrating.

Umkomaas

Are you based in Scotland by any chance?  CST have recently been chasing Smart Parking tickets there. This is an important question for you to answer please. 

Johnersh

The case of Beavis concerned a "free" car park, so yes they can claim and the issue of payment probably shouldn't be what you focus a defence on.

Since the claim is contractual, you need a copy of the contract. Ask for all their correspondence etc and/or go and take a photo of the sign.

Interestingly the letter says zero has been added for debt recovery, but the usual format is £100 ticket + £70 debt recovery + Court costs.

Once appeals and discount periods are gone, you may as well stay in it for the fight: Even the cases that lose at trial are generally limited to the ticket and court costs, such that the £70 debt recovery fee is excluded. That alone could make the fight worthwhile.

Note that even if you lose at trial, so long as you pay promptly, there is no effect on your credit rating (contrary to what is often suggested in parking company letters) that is because it would have been paid and would never be registered as an unsatisfied judgment. 

beamerguy

Johnersh said:

Interestingly the letter says zero has been added for debt recovery, but the usual format is £100 ticket + £70 debt recovery + Court costs.

The fine art of deception by CST.
They probably think that the fake £70 will not be noticed and a judge may assume that is the ticket price.  (£170)

Such deception must be shown to a judge

joebloggs123456

Thank you for the recent comments, I have received the SAR response from smart parking ltd, it gives the initial pcn with images and a DVLA response form.

I have been to the Metro bank and the sign is lit but well above 'normal' viewing height