UKPC Parking ticket, Admitted I was Driving - Scotland

Jenni_D

Thanks @Fruitcake for your kind words. I've helped friends in the past based on the great information here - I felt it was time I tried to help out here too: share some of the burden as it were.

Old_Slobberchops

Melon93 said:

Fruitcake, I will complain to the land owner but you please help me find a thread to gudie me with this? I don't know how to find the landowner but I have the details of where the parking ticket was issued.   How do you know the persuit for the fees have stopped? Do DCBL or UkParking Controll just stop sending letters to my address? 

DCBL will not notifiy UKparking control to start legal action, does that mean that UKParking controll at that point may decide not to continue or they have up to 5 years to decide so that means in 3,4 or 5 years i might start to get letters again persuing this? 

Forget about it. Single parking tickets do not go to court in Scotland because of the very different way Scottish courts are set up to discourage claims for trivial amounts of under £300 clogging up the courts. Every court case quoted in Scotland involves multiple tickets, at which point it becomes worth their while looking at court. DCBL can be completely ignored. Also different in Scotland is that after 5 years, irrespective if contact has made, if no legal action has been taken, it is time barred and the debt extinguished. That means they can't write to you after the 5 years are up or its harassment and actionable.

Umkomaas

Fruitcake said:

@Jenni_D, you have only been a member for a few weeks, but you are already an asset to this forum. Please keep it up.

I agree, a great bod to have on the team. 😊

Fruitcake

You are worrying about this far too much. Old-Slobberchops is right. We never hear of a case going to court in Scotland for a single parking charge, only if there are multiple tickets.

It will cost UKPC more to go to court than they would get back, even if they won. It is much cheaper for them to get a "No win, no fee" debt collector with absolutely no powers to send a couple of scammograms in order to frighten motorists. 
By your reactions it has worked; you are being unduly frightened by all of this.
You are more likely to win the lottery on the same day of getting struck by lightening then hit on the head by a meteorite than being taken to the Sheriff's Court in Scotland.

Please, please trust us.
Stick it in a drawer and forget it it for the next five years.
If the scammers try court in the next five years, we will still be here to help you.

Fruitcake

Umkomaas said:

Fruitcake said:

@Jenni_D, you have only been a member for a few weeks, but you are already an asset to this forum. Please keep it up.

I agree, a great bod to have on the team. 😊

... and @Old_Slobberchops by the look of things.

Umkomaas

in the next five years, we will still be here to help you.

Presumably if Covid hasn't got us in the meantime. Have you had your jab then? 😄

Fruitcake

Umkomaas said:

in the next five years, we will still be here to help you.

Presumably if Covid hasn't got us in the meantime. Have you had your jab then? 😄

I'm in group five so should be getting my invite in the next few weeks. I can't speak for the OP. 

Melon93

Thank you @Fruitcake, @Umkomaas, @Old_Slobberchops, @Jenni_D and @D_P_Dance for supporting me. 
I was worried sick but now I feel secure in the knowledge you've gvien me. Thank you for your help and particularly @Fruitcake who was sympatheic towards my worry and @Umkomaas who was paitence towards me when I showed lack of basic knowledge. I really appreactie the time and expertese you've showen.

Melon93

You say you had a permit ... where was the event? At your home? If yes, what do the terms say in your deeds / lease about parking and the need to display a permit?
The event took place at Dairy Road, Easter Dairy Road, Edinburgh. This was not at home but at a residential area where i worked for vulnerable adults in thier own home.


The Jenni_D said:

What evidence did they give that you didn't display your permit? (Photos can be taken to suggest a transgression that didn't actually happen). Do the signs say anything about how the permit should be displayed? If they even exist I bet a bus could be driven through the gaps in it.

The permit itsself states 'This Permit must be clearly displayed face-up in the windowscreen of your vehicle. failure to do so shall result in your vehicle being issued with a parking charge notice.'  

Fruitcake

The question then is, what does the lease or assured short term tenancy agreement of the residents say about parking, visitor parking, permits, parking scammers, paying parking scammers, and court claims?

This is the overriding contract and will determine whether a permit is or is not needed. What the scammers say, or put on their signs cannot change anything. The resident's lease/AST will have primacy of contract over anything a third party scammer has to say.

You are a keyworker, and should not be getting harassed by a bunch of unregulated scammers for doing your very worthy job. Have you informed your employer that you are being scammed for doing your job, and your mental health is being affected? I know dedicated people like you won't want to, but you may need to think about refusing to attend that particular site. If it is your permanent place of work, your employer should never have put you in this position.

Complain to the managing agent at the residential site.
Ask them who the landowner is.
Complain to your MP.

Most of all, thank you for your work, and do not worry any further about this. Get angry, yes, but worry ye not any more.