Cannot be furloughed by new employer

unholyangel

Grumpy_chap said:

unholyangel said:

Your old employer didn't have any choice. Cjrs can't be used to claim during a notice period from December onwards

Thanks @unholyangel - I had understood that issue about CJRS and notice periods was only not permitted in relation to redundancy, i.e. the company serving notice on the employee.  I didn't think it applied if it was the employee that served notice.

For claim periods starting on or after 1 December 2020, you cannot claim for any days on or after 1 December 2020 during which the furloughed employee was serving a contractual or statutory notice period for the employer (this includes people serving notice of retirement or resignation).

From gov.uk

Thrugelmir

Rycall said:

Grumpy_chap said:

noitsnotme said:

Grumpy_chap said:

This is difficult timing, but your old employer seems to be acting reasonably / generously in the circumstances.
It is odd that they have chosen to pay you 50% though, as that must be from their bottom line.  If they had claimed furlough, then you would need to receive all of it.

It’s their NEW employer that’s paying the 50%, not the old one.

Thank you - I mis-read that.  Very generous of the new employer.

It is. My old employer is an odd fellow, he takes it very personally when people leave the business and his entire attitude changes. When I asked him if he would extend my notice and keep me furloughed he sharply said "No, ask your new employer. He knew they couldn't."

Nothing odd about running a business as a business and not a charity. You left of your own accord.  Not reasonable to expect your ex employer to pay you and incur additional costs for nothing in return. 

Rycall

Thrugelmir said:

Rycall said:

Grumpy_chap said:

noitsnotme said:

Grumpy_chap said:

This is difficult timing, but your old employer seems to be acting reasonably / generously in the circumstances.
It is odd that they have chosen to pay you 50% though, as that must be from their bottom line.  If they had claimed furlough, then you would need to receive all of it.

It’s their NEW employer that’s paying the 50%, not the old one.

Thank you - I mis-read that.  Very generous of the new employer.

It is. My old employer is an odd fellow, he takes it very personally when people leave the business and his entire attitude changes. When I asked him if he would extend my notice and keep me furloughed he sharply said "No, ask your new employer. He knew they couldn't."

Nothing odd about running a business as a business and not a charity. You left of your own accord.  Not reasonable to expect your ex employer to pay you and incur additional costs for nothing in return. 

I'm not referring simply to my situation, over the years I've seen him turn against people and belittle them when they move on to something new. As soon as someone announces they have a new job well "they were crap anyway". 

I personally wasn't aware of that furlough stipulation until someone posted it earlier (although I'm sure my old boss wasn't either at the time considering as when I was working my notice he lined up a replacement and then asked them to go back to their old company to also ask for an extension which I found a bit rich), that's fair enough. The point of this thread wasn't to moan about my previous employer it was to see if I was entitled to any help.

Thanks for all the replies. 

calcotti

Rycall said:..I was told I could apply for Universal Credit but when I called up and they did the check they said it wouldn't be beneficial as our tax credits would stop and we would need to reapply again once I was back to work. 

if that is what was said it is shockingly incorrect. If you apply for Universal Credit the Tax Credits will stop (even if no UC is payable) and there is no going back. It is not possible to reapply for Tax Credits.