sdp gateway ending dilemma

istanbul_2

calcotti said:

poppy12345 said:

I googled both Liverpool and sefton councils and they are different authorites.

Obviously. You have interpreted OP as meaning the properties are in different authorities but I think OP is saying the properties are in the same authority but owned by different landlords based on different authorities.

istanbul_2 said: .. if the property is  in my same local council is owned by a different housing association from another district .

yes i am saying the properties are in the same authority but owned by different landlords based on different authorities.

calcotti

istanbul_2 said:.. the question i was asking was if the house comes under liverpool and it was say owned by one vision(sefton council) does that change my situation on hb payment as it would be going to one vision (sefton council)?

istanbul_2 said:.. i am saying the properties are in the same authority but owned by different landlords based on different authorities.

That's what I thought you meant. As previously advised no it doesn't. As long as the new property is in the same local authority as your existing one and as long as there is no gap between tenancies your Housing Benefit can simply be revised to reflect the new rent. Your landlord could be anywhere.

Alice_Holt

istanbul_2 said:

Alice_Holt said:

https://medium.com/adviser/closing-the-sdp-gateway-2763adf273fe

thanks alice . this is saying if i move house that it will trigger change of circumstances and possibly have to go on uc?

     See calcotti's post 29/1 11pm (quoted below).   That answered it.
 It will, of course, depend on whether the new property is in a different council area.

"The DWP will not force you onto UC. Housing Benefit is claimed from the local authority. If you move within a local authority your Housing Benefit can be revised. If you move to a new authority your existing Housing Benefit claim ends and you cannot make a new claim from the new local authority. It is then your choice to either stay on your remaining benefits and receive no help with your rent or to apply for UC in order to get help with rent. If you do the latter then your income based ESA will end."

istanbul_2

calcotti said:

istanbul_2 said:.. the question i was asking was if the house comes under liverpool and it was say owned by one vision(sefton council) does that change my situation on hb payment as it would be going to one vision (sefton council)?

istanbul_2 said:.. i am saying the properties are in the same authority but owned by different landlords based on different authorities.

That's what I thought you meant. As previously advised no it doesn't. As long as the new property is in the same local authority as your existing one and as long as there is no gap between tenancies your Housing Benefit can simply be revised to reflect the new rent. Your landlord could be anywhere.

calcotti said:

istanbul_2 said:.. the question i was asking was if the house comes under liverpool and it was say owned by one vision(sefton council) does that change my situation on hb payment as it would be going to one vision (sefton council)?

istanbul_2 said:.. i am saying the properties are in the same authority but owned by different landlords based on different authorities.

That's what I thought you meant. As previously advised no it doesn't. As long as the new property is in the same local authority as your existing one and as long as there is no gap between tenancies your Housing Benefit can simply be revised to reflect the new rent. Your landlord could be anywhere.

thanks for your help much appreciated. god knows when they will finally force us on to uc ( which i'm not looking forward to).

istanbul_2

it was rather confusing reading newspapers this week saying change of circumstances which will trigger migration to uc included moving home !!!

calcotti

Alice_Holt said:

https://medium.com/adviser/closing-the-sdp-gateway-2763adf273fe
"To protect their entitlement, clients should make it clear that they wish to receive the SDP element [included in their UC claim], by adding a note to their journal or calling the UC helpline. If the element is not awarded, this is an appealable decision."

I hope the DWP will pick up claimants that this applies to without relying on claimants to tell them, time will tell.

Alice_Holt

My post was more aimed at making you aware that a SDP element can now be added to a UC claim, so if you do need to move to UC (from ESA with SDP) - then make sure that the DWP have added it.

istanbul_2

calcotti said:

Alice_Holt said:

https://medium.com/adviser/closing-the-sdp-gateway-2763adf273fe
"To protect their entitlement, clients should make it clear that they wish to receive the SDP element [included in their UC claim], by adding a note to their journal or calling the UC helpline. If the element is not awarded, this is an appealable decision."

I hope the DWP will pick up claimants that this applies to without relying on claimants to tell them, time will tell.

knowing from our previous experiences with dwp they will not do anything, they are supposed to help you , but after a number of tribunals and appeals i don't have much faith or hope the dwp.

Alice_Holt

calcotti said:

Alice_Holt said:

https://medium.com/adviser/closing-the-sdp-gateway-2763adf273fe
"To protect their entitlement, clients should make it clear that they wish to receive the SDP element [included in their UC claim], by adding a note to their journal or calling the UC helpline. If the element is not awarded, this is an appealable decision."

I hope the DWP will pick up claimants that this applies to without relying on claimants to tell them, time will tell.

      Yes, that would be my concern.   
Particularly given the difficulty that can arise in getting UC to add the LCWRA element when claimants move to UC from ESA. 
UC systems & ESA systems don't seem to liaise well.  

calcotti

Alice_Holt said: UC systems & ESA systems don't seem to liaise well.  

My understanding is that the IT systems cannot interact and UC have to wait for information about existing ESA claims to be provided manually.