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Are you fixing for 2 or 5 years....

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  • dimbo61
    dimbo61 Posts: 13,727 Forumite
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    Hi IAMIAM,
    That depends on the size of the mortgage ? Over £150K and the 0.15% might make a big difference.
    Who knows if the mortgage fee will be £490 in 2 years.
    LTV is important when you come to remortgage.
    If you have 15% deposit you might get to 75% ltv in 2 years. But you might hit 60%LTV on a 5 year deal !
    Use " whatsthecost " to help do the maths.
    Are you staying long term or is the property a first home with dream home long term plans
  • getmore4less
    getmore4less Posts: 46,882 Forumite
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    IAMIAM said:
    Which of these two is better value on 140k 30 year term
    2 Year 1.54% £490 Fee (3% then 2% ERC)
    5 Year 1.69% £490 Fee (3% then 2% ERC after year 2)
    I am presuming the 5 year, as in two years you would end up paying a £490 fee again for another 2 year fix
    some information missing(LTV, rates for next lower LTV  and no fee rates as a starter ) but we can works with what you have given to give an idea.

    These are really basic number crunches.

    £140k 30y term (we can ignore the first fee as they are the same.
    start with the basics 
    rate fees payment
    1.69% £0.00 £496.04
    1.54% £0.00 £485.86

    lets go a £500pm payment(If going to overpay you need to use the planned payment.

    look at the amount owing at Y2  
    amount rate payment owing
    £140,000.00 1.69% £500.00 £132,613.06
    £140,000.00 1.54% £500.00 £132,197.46

    then Y 4 for the 5y 
    amount rate payment owing
    £140,000.00 1.69% £500.00 £124,972.36

    then run the 2y for 2 more years with a £490 fee added
    amount rate payment owing
    £132,688.00 1.54% £500.00 £124,656.90
    Multiple 2 years are running ahead of the 5year if the rates don't change

    Y 5 for the 5 year
    amount rate payment owing
    £140,000.00 1.69% £500.00 £121,054.14

    then another year for the next 2y 
    amount rate payment owing
    £125,147.00 1.54% £500.00 £121,045.39

    Three lots  2 years are still ahead even with 2 fees and a year to go before next fee

    You can do the numbers to Y6 ...

  • IAMIAM
    IAMIAM Posts: 1,334 Forumite
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    This is interesting. Thanks for this. The same fee creates a good cycle of the 2 year fixes, assuming the rate remains around the same in another two years....
  • IAMIAM
    IAMIAM Posts: 1,334 Forumite
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    edited 18 May 2021 at 10:25PM
    Any change of opinion based on budget, stamp duty, prices and current rates....
  • IAMIAM
    IAMIAM Posts: 1,334 Forumite
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    So no changes then
  • Redwino222
    Redwino222 Posts: 490 Forumite
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    Five years.  Like the certainty, fixed for five years at 1.3%.  
  • IAMIAM
    IAMIAM Posts: 1,334 Forumite
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    1.3% is a very good rate. I have plumped for 1.44 with FD for two years, see what happens...
  • csgohan4
    csgohan4 Posts: 10,600 Forumite
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    our fix ends next August and will likely fix for 5 years with inflation and/or Interest rates going to go up inevitably. Our current interests rate is 1.18%
    "It is prudent when shopping for something important, not to limit yourself to Pound land/Estate Agents"

    G_M/ Bowlhead99 RIP
  • lonibra
    lonibra Posts: 365 Forumite
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    2 year fix, 0.99%
  • Windofchange
    Windofchange Posts: 1,172 Forumite
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    We come to renew / remortgage at Xmas and I am looking at 5 years minimum, 10 years if possible. We are in our forever home, and if I can get a good rate on 10 then I would go for that as I too have a bit of a niggling suspicion that inflation is going to kick off over the back end of summer and into autumn as the economy unlocks, and this could lead to enforced rises in rates. 
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