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Scotland: Parking fine Edinburgh Hermiston Gait DRP

Hi everyone,

I know there are a few threads like this but I wanted to open a new one due to there not being one for a while and the situation i am in. A few weeks ago I got a letter from DRP saying I was at Hermiston Gait in Edinburgh outside of opening hours. This was true as I had planned on going to Tesco but when I arrived it had closed, and then immediately I received a phone call which I took. I was parked in a bay for around 30 mins and I remember clearly a few other cars (not many) also parked.

I ignored the first letter but have just (today) received another letter threatening court action or pay 170 pounds. I have been told to ignore letters from Debt recovery plus but the letter also tells a story of Scottish motorist in Dundee who had to pay 24,500 pounds. I have researched the story which is widely covered, and it seems it was a unique situation because she had ignored hundreds of letters. This is my first one so I was wondering if anyone could give advice if this is enforceable. I have not given any details of who the driver was. 

Thanks for any help!
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  • nosferatu1001
    nosferatu1001 Posts: 12,961 Forumite
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    Have you read the NEWBIES thread? This is the only one you need right now. It is up to date. 
    You will then need to ask a board guide - send a PM! - as you have told the world who drove, which youa re told NOT to do!
  • Umkomaas
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    Ignore it. If the driver is unknown to the parking company in Scotland (and NI), they have no one to pursue (but the registered keeper will come into the frame later this year for tickets issued from there on - precise date not yet available). 

    Enforceable/unenforceable is a legal term and it's not quite so simple as saying it is or it isn't. A Judge (or Sheriff) would make that decision, whether he/she gets it right or wrong!

    Which parking company is involved. DRP are of no consequence to you, or anyone else in the context of private parking. 
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

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  • beamerguy
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    Yes that did happen and the lady concerned ignored everything until the debt was so high she was taken to court.   But there is a twist to the story. The lady went bankrupt which was the right thing to do and left the PPC twiddling their fingers.  DRP did not tell you that. 

    DRP are just trying to scare you but in reality, DRP are simpleton circus clowns who lie and spout rubbish so IGNORE 

    Scotland is problem for PPC's and the rule of thumb is you never say who the driver was

    Please read the NEWBIES thread about Scotland.   Ignore the circus clowns.  If you get a legal contact you, come back here.

    Who is the parking company ..... is it Smart parking ?

  • KeithP
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    I've read something very very similar before:
    adamapple said:
    Hi @GingerBarbie @johnstacksanders did you pay or just ignore the "fine".
    I've just received a parking fine letter from Hermiston Gait today for parking after 10pm. I'd visited Tesco and hadn't realised it was shut, as i was leaving I got a call from a friend and had a chat with him for around 20 mins and left the car park.
    Tried calling Tesco and they don't give a hoot, unsure if I should just ignore it.
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/77821824/#Comment_77821824
  • Umkomaas
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    KeithP said:
    I've read something very very similar before:
    adamapple said:
    Hi @GingerBarbie @johnstacksanders did you pay or just ignore the "fine".
    I've just received a parking fine letter from Hermiston Gait today for parking after 10pm. I'd visited Tesco and hadn't realised it was shut, as i was leaving I got a call from a friend and had a chat with him for around 20 mins and left the car park.
    Tried calling Tesco and they don't give a hoot, unsure if I should just ignore it.
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/77821824/#Comment_77821824
    Uncannily similar. Must be a tempting place to visit after hours, but perhaps best to switch off the phone in case it rings and you stay to take the call. Then oops, £100 PCN, just like adamapple and sid1293!
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • beamerguy said:
    Yes that did happen and the lady concerned ignored everything until the debt was so high she was taken to court.   But there is a twist to the story. The lady went bankrupt which was the right thing to do and left the PPC twiddling their fingers.  DRP did not tell you that. 

    DRP are just trying to scare you but in reality, DRP are simpleton circus clowns who lie and spout rubbish so IGNORE 

    Scotland is problem for PPC's and the rule of thumb is you never say who the driver was

    Please read the NEWBIES thread about Scotland.   Ignore the circus clowns.  If you get a legal contact you, come back here.

    Who is the parking company ..... is it Smart parking ?


    It was UKPC. Anyone know much about them?
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 26 January 2021 at 1:30AM
    Never heard of them...!!  I am joking because you just need to search the forum and also read the NEWBIES thread.  

    We can't start some pointless chat about who ex-clampers UKPC are when you can find out by reading any UKPC thread about Scotland, if you want to waste your time taking it seriously even though the NEWBIES thread tells you about Scottish law being different. 

    And how to get ALL PCNs cancelled (potentially) by using PLAN A that we aren't re-explaining on individual threads.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • beamerguy
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    sid1293 said:
    beamerguy said:
    Yes that did happen and the lady concerned ignored everything until the debt was so high she was taken to court.   But there is a twist to the story. The lady went bankrupt which was the right thing to do and left the PPC twiddling their fingers.  DRP did not tell you that. 

    DRP are just trying to scare you but in reality, DRP are simpleton circus clowns who lie and spout rubbish so IGNORE 

    Scotland is problem for PPC's and the rule of thumb is you never say who the driver was

    Please read the NEWBIES thread about Scotland.   Ignore the circus clowns.  If you get a legal contact you, come back here.

    Who is the parking company ..... is it Smart parking ?


    It was UKPC. Anyone know much about them?
    Just another parking vermin who have been banned by the DVLA twice for poor behaviour and recently caught out issuing tickets on land they had no authority to do so.

    However, you are being contacted by circus clowns who are powerless and you take no notice of the DRP rubbish.
    If anything else happens come back here .......... not DRP junk though

  • fisherjim
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    sid1293 said:

    It was UKPC. Anyone know much about them?
    You are joking surely?
    They are proven liars and scammers, falsify evidence suspended by the DVLA twice, etc etc and run by a nasty rich Rupert from a very wealthy area in Buckinghamshire, who hides behind postal drops in various places including a little shop in Denham yes we know all about them.
    Just keep quiet as long as they don't know the driver you should be OK.
  • beamerguy
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    edited 26 January 2021 at 11:07AM
    fisherjim said:
    sid1293 said:

    It was UKPC. Anyone know much about them?
    You are joking surely?
    They are proven liars and scammers, falsify evidence suspended by the DVLA twice, etc etc and run by a nasty rich Rupert from a very wealthy area in Buckinghamshire, who hides behind postal drops in various places including a little shop in Denham yes we know all about them.
    Just keep quiet as long as they don't know the driver you should be OK.
    HA, given what I and others have seen, UKPC car parks are empty right now and will stay so for the future.  Rupert won't be adding to his riches, more like using them up. We wait for the day that the BPA and DVLA kick them out

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