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sweetgirl2015
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edited 25 January 2021 at 12:57AM in Techie Stuff
Its purely casual observation but I have noticed that asda and even major places like PC World etc only seem to sell smart tvs with built in dvd which are at the maximum size of 32inch or smaller, nothing any larger than that which I find odd. 
I was looking to buy a 55inch or even 60inch tv with the hope of it having a built in dvd, but it doesnt seem possible. The main reason I thought this would be useful is we then plan on mounting the tv on the wall but not ridiculously high, so we could have less wires and ditch our current dvd player and put the tv on the wall within reach so we could insert a dvd comfortably without step ladders etc. 
But it puzzles me why are the tvs with built in dvds only 32inch or smaller? Is there an obvious reason for this I am overlooking?
Better still how great would it be if large tvs came with built in bluray? Or even Sky?
We are aware in this age of Netflix streaming is the popular choice at the moment, but I know friends and family of ours that had an internet outage over Christmas and couldn't watch much tv as they ditched their dvds ages ago, but it led me to think hang on we got a tremendous collection of dvds why ditch them if we might get a situation with no Internet one day?
These things still have a place in our lives right? I mean asda still have a dvd and bluray chart so somebody must be buying them. 
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  • I suspect at least part, if not the whole reason, is that to incorporate a DVD player, the tv would need to be a lot thicker.  With most large tv’s there isn’t much behind the screen and so adding a DVD player would probably add up to an inch to the depth of the tv, which I suspect there wouldn’t be much of a market for.  Plus, whilst DVD’s are still sold, they are a dying medium and the majority of people don’t want to pay extra for a feature they won’t use, so it’s a very limited market.
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  • JJ_Egan
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    As above thin screens are more normal than the old box type tv  .
    Pick up a DVD player on Amazon £25 - £40 .
  • HereToday
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    Part of he reason being that DVD Video resolution is incredibly poor. Would look horrible on a large high resolution screen. 
    Smaller TVs are used for spare rooms, bedrooms kitchens etc Convenience over quality.
    You need BluRay to even experience Full HD resolution from an optical disc.
  • HereToday
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    Its purely casual observation but I have noticed that asda and even major places like PC World etc only seem to sell smart tvs with built in dvd which are at the maximum size of 32inch or smaller, nothing any larger than that which I find odd. 
    I was looking to buy a 55inch or even 60inch tv with the hope of it having a built in dvd, but it doesnt seem possible. The main reason I thought this would be useful is we then plan on mounting the tv on the wall but not ridiculously high, so we could have less wires and ditch our current dvd player and put the tv on the wall within reach so we could insert a dvd comfortably without step ladders etc. 
    But it puzzles me why are the tvs with built in dvds only 32inch or smaller? Is there an obvious reason for this I am overlooking?
    Better still how great would it be if large tvs came with built in bluray? Or even Sky?
    We are aware in this age of Netflix streaming is the popular choice at the moment, but I know friends and family of ours that had an internet outage over Christmas and couldn't watch much tv as they ditched their dvds ages ago, but it led me to think hang on we got a tremendous collection of dvds why ditch them if we might get a situation with no Internet one day?
    These things still have a place in our lives right? I mean asda still have a dvd and bluray chart so somebody must be buying them. 
    Many years ago, people began to extract the contents of their DVDs etc on to storage drives. Once it is stored on a drive, you can play the content anywhere. No need for noisy and hot DVD drives.
  • molerat
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    edited 25 January 2021 at 6:23PM
    Can't remember the last time I watched an actual DVD.  A lot of mine have only been spun up once and that was to rip them to my network hard drive.  Some never even came out of the box in the days of UV etc.
  • Sandtree
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    DVD is standard definition and so looks bad on anything above 32". They could obviously build in a bluray player or even a UHD bluray player but its always been the case that only little bedroom TVs are "all in one" types and "lounge" tvs have always been separate... I remember by 12" bedroom CRT TV had a VHS player built in as a kid but again parent's TV in the lounge had an independent one. 

    There are some TVs, unfortunately more often the expensive ones, which have an external box and so power, DVD, Skybox, aerial etc all connects to that box and a single all purpose cable goes from the box to the screen so only one cable to hide and no issues with adding a new device at a later date.
  • JJ_Egan said:
    As above thin screens are more normal than the old box type tv  .
    Pick up a DVD player on Amazon £25 - £40 .
    Thanks but these are brand new smart tvs in asda I was looking at just a couple days ago and although the largest was 32 inch it was still amazingly slim, and only the area where the dvd slotted in was slightly wider but not an issue with me. 
    But as I mentioned the need for less wires is why we want to ditch the dvd player as we want it on the wall, but a practicle height so as to still reach to slide in dvds, we have an enormous amount of dvds and bluerays, my hubby has the complete Dukes of Hazzard on dvd for example which is no longer on streaming sites. Not to mention the complete Bond collection, we have tonnes of box sets, Game of Thrones etc etc. 
    But as I did mention we already got a 55inch smart tv which dvd looks great through that, not grainy at all as its an up scaling player, but that one will go to the bedroom once we or if we find a solution to our problem as above. 
    The other option I suppose is to buy an ultra long HDMI cable and link our bluray player to it and try to hide the wire. But thanks to all you're replies. 
  • Sandtree said:
    DVD is standard definition and so looks bad on anything above 32". They could obviously build in a bluray player or even a UHD bluray player but its always been the case that only little bedroom TVs are "all in one" types and "lounge" tvs have always been separate... I remember by 12" bedroom CRT TV had a VHS player built in as a kid but again parent's TV in the lounge had an independent one. 

    There are some TVs, unfortunately more often the expensive ones, which have an external box and so power, DVD, Skybox, aerial etc all connects to that box and a single all purpose cable goes from the box to the screen so only one cable to hide and no issues with adding a new device at a later date.
    Thanks, money isnt an issue as such, I just think television manufactures are missing a trick and should include built in bluray players, it can be done so relatively cheaply these days. But if people dont buy bluerays or dvds anymore how come there is still a chart for these formats in asda and HMV etc.
    Personally I have heard of so many cases of internet outage over Christmas, and normal tele was rubbish. I prefer blurays for quality and dependability. 
  • Stream them from your pc/laptop to your TV via wireless perhaps
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  • Sandtree
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    sweetgirl2015 said:
    Thanks, money isnt an issue as such, I just think television manufactures are missing a trick and should include built in bluray players, it can be done so relatively cheaply these days. But if people dont buy bluerays or dvds anymore how come there is still a chart for these formats in asda and HMV etc.
    Personally I have heard of so many cases of internet outage over Christmas, and normal tele was rubbish. I prefer blurays for quality and dependability. 
    As mentioned, its just always been this way and I guess the TV manufacturers know their market better than we do but if you want to speculate...

    1) It adds volume to the TV, and particularly at an edge (cannot be at the bottom due to those that stand mount) and these days TVs are all sold as to be as thin as possible

    2) Most TV manufacturers also make blu-ray players so bundling stops a sale of those

    3) It adds a cost, even if its just £5, that cost gets compounded when you add profit margins of all the organizations in the supply chain and so how many sales do you lose because your competitor's equivalent TV is £20 cheaper as it doesnt have a blu-ray player in it that most dont want

    4) Has to be a reliability question too... the two items become ineviably tied and whilst if the DVD player dies you potentially can just use an external one it does create an element of resentment... plus means if a DVD fails in warranty rather than asking them to post the DVD back you have to send a courier for the whole TV and get into arguments about who pays to take it off the wall etc

    People do still buy physical media, but the numbers are dropping and fairly quickly. Interestingly, for those into home cinema, a few big name high end brands have stopped producing their UHD players and so top rung options now are from Panasonic and Sony at around £850 which for the money some people used to pay is peanuts... there is still some appetite though as secondhand values of those now discontinued spinners are north of £1,500.

    Personally 99% of my watching is from streaming these days but I do have my UHD Blu-ray player that comes out for old favourites or epic films where the higher bitrate shows when connected to the projector and the surroundsound system.
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