Speeding (split from an old thread)

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di41

Hi can anyone tell me the likely penalty for doing 50 in a 70 .  Thanks. 

Supersonos

di41 said:

Hi can anyone tell me the likely penalty for doing 50 in a 70 .  Thanks. 

There's no penalty for doing 20mph under the limit.  You're fine.

Car_54

di41 said:

Hi can anyone tell me the likely penalty for doing 50 in a 70 .  Thanks. 

If you mean 70 in a 50, you'll normally be offered a fixed penalty (£100 plus 3 points), unless you're already on 9 points or more.

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di41 said:

Hi can anyone tell me the likely penalty for doing 50 in a 70 .  Thanks. 

SAC is typically offered up to 10% + 9mph i.e. for 50 limit - max 64mph.

Doing 70 in a 50, almost certainly your speedo was showing 75 or more, even if you tried to argue you thought it was a 70 limit you would still have been over

williamgriffin

Deleted_User said:

di41 said:

Hi can anyone tell me the likely penalty for doing 50 in a 70 .  Thanks. 

SAC is typically offered up to 10% + 9mph i.e. for 50 limit - max 64mph.

Doing 70 in a 50, almost certainly your speedo was showing 75 or more, even if you tried to argue you thought it was a 70 limit you would still have been over

Given he was caught at 70 if the limit was 70 he wouldn't get a ticket. Arguing what you think the limit is isn't a defence. 

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williamgriffin said:

Deleted_User said:

di41 said:

Hi can anyone tell me the likely penalty for doing 50 in a 70 .  Thanks. 

SAC is typically offered up to 10% + 9mph i.e. for 50 limit - max 64mph.

Doing 70 in a 50, almost certainly your speedo was showing 75 or more, even if you tried to argue you thought it was a 70 limit you would still have been over

Given he was caught at 70 if the limit was 70 he wouldn't get a ticket. Arguing what you think the limit is isn't a defence. 

??? What on earth are you on about ???

I said, even if he thought it was a 70 his speedo would have shown him above 70 i.e. he knew he was speeding. I didn't say anything at all about using lack of knowledge of the speed limit as a defence???

Also, you can be done for even 1mph over the limit if the police think your driving was dangerous, the 10% or 10% +3mph is just ACPO guidance, ANY speeding is an offence, per the law. Remember that your speedo can be as low as 10% + 9mph iirc over reading, so if the police caught you at say 72, your speedo could be showing 80+

sheramber

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TooManyPoints

//...the 10% or 10% +3mph is just ACPO guidance,//

Just on a point of pedantry, the ACPO was abolished in 2015 and replaced by the National Police Chiefs' Council. Their guidance is that speeding enforcement should begin at Limit+10%+2mph. So in a 70mph limit, up to 78mph and you should be OK, 79mph should see enforcement. But as mentioned, that is only guidance and any excess is an offence.

williamgriffin

Deleted_User said:

williamgriffin said:

Deleted_User said:

di41 said:

Hi can anyone tell me the likely penalty for doing 50 in a 70 .  Thanks. 

SAC is typically offered up to 10% + 9mph i.e. for 50 limit - max 64mph.

Doing 70 in a 50, almost certainly your speedo was showing 75 or more, even if you tried to argue you thought it was a 70 limit you would still have been over

Given he was caught at 70 if the limit was 70 he wouldn't get a ticket. Arguing what you think the limit is isn't a defence. 

??? What on earth are you on about ???

I said, even if he thought it was a 70 his speedo would have shown him above 70 i.e. he knew he was speeding. I didn't say anything at all about using lack of knowledge of the speed limit as a defence???

Also, you can be done for even 1mph over the limit if the police think your driving was dangerous, the 10% or 10% +3mph is just ACPO guidance, ANY speeding is an offence, per the law. Remember that your speedo can be as low as 10% + 9mph iirc over reading, so if the police caught you at say 72, your speedo could be showing 80+

You can be done for dangerous driving under the speed limit. 

TooManyPoints

You can be done for dangerous driving under the speed limit. 

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