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Planning rules for a large window

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  • Jeepers_Creepers
    Jeepers_Creepers Posts: 4,339 Forumite
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    edited 24 January 2021 at 1:55PM
    Ashe, get busy with Paint. I mean MS Paint.

    I don't think a large square single-paned window will look good there. You might think that a single pane will help appreciate the view beyond, but in reality a central transom won't affect it, and I'm pretty sure will look a lot better with whatever size you plan to go with.

    It's often counter-intuitive - most folk have commented that the view out our bifolds is better when they are closed - go figure. And it ain't 'cos it hides part of it... It just seems to emphasise it somehow, frame it, it's weird. It might even be sikologikal - that's an ok view to have from inside the room vs that's just the view when you're outside. I dunno. By a similar token, an extension built by the previous occupants has HUGE windows around 3m x 2m made from single unopening panes, chosen to give an uninterrupted view. It's horrible - it's like a shop front. It's cold, it's clinical. So there isn't a bar across it? - big deal.

    That's a perfect photo for playing with. 'Paint' is as basic as it gets (I know, because I can just about handle it) and it's easy to cut-and-paste window sections together to make any size or shape you want and then stick it on top of the main pic. Then look at it through squinting eyes... You'll need new lintels for the extra widths, so this really needs thinking through so that you KNOW it'll look 'right' when it's done.

    But, I certainly agree with the principle - lovely garden, pretty house - but why are these upper windows so bludy small? :-(   
  • ashe
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    The house was actually built in 1991 - I think the previous owner put all tilt and turn windows in and we dont like the central bars as it makes the windows feel a lot smaller than they are, but as we get to each room we will probably be making them larger where possible. We did put the large bottom left window in ourselves as the downstairs living room window was the size of the upstairs top left one. we didn't mind breaking the sight lines up with that one because we will regularly have those open. 

    We've had a quote done for the window and happy with the price, its more trying to think through practicalities. We wont open it anyway - but if  it does have to open, Aluminium - Oak Casement - Tilt and Turn Windows UK (slideandfold.co.uk) this side does seem to sell quite large standard and T&T ones.
    Not really keen on the Juliet balcony ones - we had them quote for that as a backup but the price is £650 more, and I believe you need to go through planning permission for a Juliet balcony? Feels like a waste for something we wont open, and even the frameless ones you can still see the extra piece of glass so while it doesn't break up sight lines, it is still there. 
  • ashe
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    She’s revised the size now to 1300mmx1300mm and we’re going to make some enquiries about the opening requirement with local planning team and weight for joints etc with that supplier 
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  • ashe said:
    She’s revised the size now to 1300mmx1300mm and we’re going to make some enquiries about the opening requirement with local planning team and weight for joints etc with that supplier 

    What size is the existing window?
  • ashe
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    ashe said:
    She’s revised the size now to 1300mmx1300mm and we’re going to make some enquiries about the opening requirement with local planning team and weight for joints etc with that supplier 

    What size is the existing window?
    Current window is ( W x h ) 35 x 40 inches, so it isn’t making it ridiculously huge looking at it. 

    I’ve had a reply from that company and they state “ Thank you for your email.

     

    All of our products are made within manufacture tolerances, all the hinges are equipped to take the weight of our products within the size ranges on the website and they are supplied with the appropriate hinges.” so going to work with the builder & his glazer to firm up what is possible and which style and have engaged with planning team for any advice they may have. 

  • ic
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    I do wonder about developers obsession with tiny windows.  There's no logical reason why the big bedroom window couldn't have been the same width as the doors downstairs.  😒

    The garden does look beautiful, even from that angle!

    Isn't it to do with meeting regs around thermal efficiency?  Small windows let out less heat, so the building secures a better rating.  Increase the size of the window and the rating drops, requiring the need to fit better units or moving up to triple glazing.
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