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Buying a house with bad damp?

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  • Doozergirl
    Doozergirl Posts: 34,082 Forumite
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    edited 13 January 2021 at 8:28PM
    I don't think that has anything to do with render, given it's all on the chimney breast and around it.  There's a lot of water coming in and so my very first port of call would be the roof and the flashing around the chimney breast.  

    Photos of the outside of the wall would have been handy though.  

    What evidence have they given you of the render being the problem?  It doesn't make sense to me at all, looking at it being centred around a  wall that has no render on the inside of it. 
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  • The builder advised that he believed it was the render on the gable wall causing the issues, which the estate agent also mentioned. It’s only that one wall that is rendered, and I’m no expert but it looks very badly down and is clearly patched in places. Good point though about the chimney breast. To my knowledge the chimneys are blocked up.
  • greatcrested
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    If water gets into cracks in render, it cannot evaporate and escape, so penetrates the wall causing damp inside.
    I have noidea why people put render on extermal walls. (well, OK, 'it looks good', but structurally....)
  • Doozergirl
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    The builder advised that he believed it was the render on the gable wall causing the issues, which the estate agent also mentioned. It’s only that one wall that is rendered, and I’m no expert but it looks very badly down and is clearly patched in places. Good point though about the chimney breast. To my knowledge the chimneys are blocked up.
    They may well be blocked but the chimneys are still connected to the roof.  If the flashing that protects the join between roof and chimney is split, there is no protection and the water will run down the face of the chimney breast inside, which looks a lot like what you have there.  Because there is puddling on the ceiling, I would say that it is more of a leak on the inside than penetration through both the back and front walls of the breast.  

    The render may well be shot, but I would expect the damp patches to correspond with the same areas outside.  
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  • Doozergirl
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    edited 13 January 2021 at 9:33PM
    I'm talking about this area, if the lead has deteriorated.  The back of the chimney here at the higher end would be most exposed as the water would run straight into the house down the part of chimney breast exposed inside.  Your chimney probably isn't in the same position but the picture is better than nothing. 

    Even better would be you posting photos of the house outside! 
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  • Thanks @Doozergirl that is very helpful!! I’ll chat to the builder about this. Unfortunately didn’t get any pictures outside 
  • Doozergirl
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    edited 13 January 2021 at 9:58PM
    The paving is at and probably over the DPC course in the side photo.  It won't explain damp patches on the ceiling, but it can explain a significant amount at lower level.  It needs to be taken back about a foot and the ground level around the wall taken down to at least 150mm below its present point against the render. 

    Render also shouldn't touch the floor, it's going to act like a straw and breach the DPC even if the paving weren't against the wall.  That needs cutting back up to DPC and a bell bead put on the bottom to prevent it dripping straight down the wall. 

    The chimney stack isn't a problem as it doesn't exist but I would still want to get up in the loft and see whether the chimney breast is damp at that level.   You can see the repair to the roof where it was taken away and the repair may not have been great.  Real slate roofs don't like to be disturbed much.  
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  • The paving is at and probably over the DPC course in the side photo.  It won't explain damp patches on the ceiling, but it can explain a significant amount at lower level.  It needs to be taken back about a foot and the ground level around the wall taken down to at least 150mm below its present point against the render. 

    Render also shouldn't touch the floor, it's going to act like a straw and breach the DPC even if the paving weren't against the wall.  That needs cutting back up to DPC and a bell bead put on the bottom to prevent it dripping straight down the wall. 

    The chimney stack isn't a problem as it doesn't exist but I would still want to get up in the loft and see whether the chimney breast is damp at that level.   You can see the repair to the roof where it was taken away and the repair may not have been great.  Real slate roofs don't like to be disturbed much.  
    Thank you so much, this is so useful. The builder had also flagged the paving issue. We haven’t had a proper survey done yet but good to know we would need to look at the roof as a possible source. Thank you!!!
  • jimbog
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    The paving is at and probably over the DPC course in the side photo.  It won't explain damp patches on the ceiling, but it can explain a significant amount at lower level.  It needs to be taken back about a foot and the ground level around the wall taken down to at least 150mm below its present point against the render. 
    Look up 'French drain' that would help
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