Work in School - should I work my contract?

KatrinaWaves

Are you being paid by how many times you say British and Britain? Can I have some British money if I say those words too.

Britain. British. Rule Britannia!

bartelbe

KatrinaWaves said:

Are you being paid by how many times you say British and Britain? Can I have some British money if I say those words too.

Britain. British. Rule Britannia!

Oh dear, is that really the best you can come up to defend your belief in presentism?

What people like yourself don't get, is the number of hours an employee works doesn't matter. What matter is how much useful output they produce.

billy2shots

bartelbe said:

KatrinaWaves said:

Are you being paid by how many times you say British and Britain? Can I have some British money if I say those words too.

Britain. British. Rule Britannia!

Oh dear, is that really the best you can come up to defend your belief in presentism?

What people like yourself don't get, is the number of hours an employee works doesn't matter. What matter is how much useful output they produce.

No, what you don't understand is your assumption that every sector is the same. 
There are plenty of jobs that require a worker to be working at their agreed time for various different reasons. 

In this scenario alone, what would happen if a parent that picked their kids up at 5.20pm suddenly had an important errand to run (I had to collect a prescription and take it to work unexpectedly after my shift yesterday). 
They should be entitled to turn around and drop the kids off again at after school club and return to collect them before 6pm. I would be angry as hell if the person on duty had left 40 minutes early. 

Very basic logic dictates not all jobs can have their work compacted to allow shorter working days. 
I'm smiling to myself imagining police, Doctors, nurses etc saying 'I've done my quota, I'm going home 3 hours before the end of my shift'. 

Absolutely hilarious way of thinking. 

wilfred30

Ignoring the idiotic ramblings, the question in the thread title is 'should I work my contract'?  The answer is clearly yes.  Employees have to work the hours they are paid for unless there is agreement to the contrary.
If the OP doesn't want to fulfil their contracted hours, they must be prepared to forfeit the pay for the time they do not 'want' to be at work, regardless of whether they have anything to do or not.

gozaimasu

I agree with the OP that it is ridiculous to stay at work if there is no work, and agree with the presenteeism problems in our work culture. I used to work somewhere with flexitime 7am to 7pm, and I would preferentially turn up later. I would still work my hours and I would still complete all my work, but the managers and other staff were early birds so they noticed that I was not there, and they did not notice that I stayed after they left. It was never specificially mentioned, but I would often have my manager coming looking for me because of this. Sometimes I would come in early, have a very long lunch break, then come back and stay late. That way not only did I avoid judgement, but I avoided the awful traffic. I just meant that I had to waste a couple of hours around lunchtime.

KatrinaWaves

gozaimasu said:

I agree with the OP that it is ridiculous to stay at work if there is no work, and agree with the presenteeism problems in our work culture. I used to work somewhere with flexitime 7am to 7pm, and I would preferentially turn up later. I would still work my hours and I would still complete all my work, but the managers and other staff were early birds so they noticed that I was not there, and they did not notice that I stayed after they left. It was never specificially mentioned, but I would often have my manager coming looking for me because of this. Sometimes I would come in early, have a very long lunch break, then come back and stay late. That way not only did I avoid judgement, but I avoided the awful traffic.

It is not presenteeism when you literally have to be there for the children, who may have needs anytime up to the advertised end time. Do you think they can just pack up and go home if no children use the service one day?

gozaimasu

Ok then, I retract my input and say to the OP - yes you must work the contract but if you hate it then get a job somewhere else.

sparkermarketing

I think I would be pretty peeved as a parent, if say I found my child had left their homework book at after school club - and I went back to get it before the advertised closing time to find it closed.

Ariotofmyown

bartelbe said:

Welcome to idiot Britain, in which people think presentism is a good idea. So rather than get the job done, people spend their time pointlessly hanging around with nothing to do. Unproductive, with the added bonus that the same culture makes people turn up when they are sick and spread nasties around.

The boss is being a typical British managerial idiot, as you say you can't magic up kids. You are available for you contracted hours and it isn't your fault that you are not needed. My advice is to bring a good book, read it during the pointless hours you're at work and ponder how incompetent British managers ever get their jobs.

The poster is being paid until 6, if they bothered to apply a little amount of their own personal initiative they could think of a number of tasks which needed undertaking which also would then preoccupy their time. 

bartelbe

Ariotofmyown said:

bartelbe said:

Welcome to idiot Britain, in which people think presentism is a good idea. So rather than get the job done, people spend their time pointlessly hanging around with nothing to do. Unproductive, with the added bonus that the same culture makes people turn up when they are sick and spread nasties around.

The boss is being a typical British managerial idiot, as you say you can't magic up kids. You are available for you contracted hours and it isn't your fault that you are not needed. My advice is to bring a good book, read it during the pointless hours you're at work and ponder how incompetent British managers ever get their jobs.

The poster is being paid until 6, if they bothered to apply a little amount of their own personal initiative they could think of a number of tasks which needed undertaking which also would then preoccupy their time. 

Which sums up the ridiculous attitude of this country. If someone hasn't got any work to do, they should just make some up? Why? What possible good does that do?

Plus you're all making an assumption. The OP's employer said nothing about a parent coming back and dropping off their kid again. They can clarify that if they like but the way I read it,  is once a parent has picked the kid up, they can't come back.

Why you are all outraged by an employee leaving early when they have nothing to do is beyond me. Is it jealously or do you really think it does any good for people to pointlessly hang around in their workplace to do make work or literally nothing?