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do I need anti virus for new phone?

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  • binao
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    edited 5 January 2021 at 8:56PM
    clive0510 said:
    Hi got a new phone. its a zte blade. seems far more than I need really, but the guy in the phone shop seemed to think thats the one I should buy. 
    So how much did "the guy in the phone shop seemed to think" that you should spend?

    I make international video calls on my mobile. £11-50 a month, including insurance.

    Ps. No av, no probs so far,  touch wood. :)

    Good luck.
  • clive0510
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    binao said:
    clive0510 said:
    Hi got a new phone. its a zte blade. seems far more than I need really, but the guy in the phone shop seemed to think thats the one I should buy. 
    So how much did "the guy in the phone shop seemed to think" that you should spend?

    I make international video calls on my mobile. £11-50 a month, including insurance.

    Ps. No av, no probs so far,  touch far.

    Good luck.
    well I paid £80 for the old phone and had it ten years! so I told the guy in the shop probably not over £100. so thats what he sold me this phone for -£100. and i keep my old talktalk contract because he changed the sim over. and its fine. I'll keep it now I got it. probably get used to it! 
  • twopenny
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    Clive just be cautious depending on where you live if you use the wifi in public places like bars and coffee shops where it's shared with strangers.
    I say depending because I'm in a rural area and we only have one pub that has shared wifi.
    If you were doing online banking while siting in a pub or some such is probably the only time you would need protection and it doesn't sound like that's something you're thinking of ;)

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  • jsmith9
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    you can use your banking app on shared wifi until the cows come home with no danger.
  • clive0510
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    twopenny said:
    Clive just be cautious depending on where you live if you use the wifi in public places like bars and coffee shops where it's shared with strangers.
    I say depending because I'm in a rural area and we only have one pub that has shared wifi.
    If you were doing online banking while siting in a pub or some such is probably the only time you would need protection and it doesn't sound like that's something you're thinking of ;)
    yes thats fine thanks. I do on line banking, but only on this pc. one of the reasons I bought the new phone was I moved my bank to virgin. and you have to have there app. my old phone wouldnt do it. but this one did it 1st time. thanks for the reply.
  • J_B
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    Browntoa said:
    J_B said:
    You don't really need AVG on your PC - the built in Windows one is fine.
    It's a mobile phone
    I know, but the OP said ...
    clive0510 said:
    Any way I have on this pc avg free edition anti virus.
    Hence my comment

  • DCFC79
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    edited 5 January 2021 at 11:02PM
    Avg on your doesnt know you have a new phone, its an advert to get you to install the software on your phone, no need for it really, dont click on any links in text messages especially from a number you dont recognise or click on a link in an email from someone in Nigeria or from Amazon. 

    If your not sure ask on here if something is genuine or not.
  • jsmith9 said:
    you can use your banking app on shared wifi until the cows come home with no danger.
    It would be nice if that was true, but it really isn't.

    This article is really just selling privacy VPN, but it touches on the dangers at a high level: https://www.cloudwards.net/dangers-of-public-wifi/

    Open public WiFi hot spots are not encrypted. And you cannot necessarily trust the access point or router. You need to be utterly confident that your device is fully patched and up to date, and isn't running anything that would allow a third party to eavesdrop or make it susceptible to a man-in-the-middle attack.

    A rural pub is probably less risky then an open Wi-Fi hotspot in an inner city location, but given that you can buy devices specifically for creating open Wi-Fi hotspots with a view to exploiting the people using them, it is important to avoid giving people a false sense of security.
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  • jsmith9
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    edited 6 January 2021 at 9:37AM
    "It would be nice if that was true, but it really isn't."

    yes, it really is true. If you use your banking app, all the data transmitted to and from the phone is encrypted by the app to a very high standard, and thus completely unintelligible to anyone 'listening' on the open wifi connection.

    In fact, paradoxically, using your banking app is probably one of the safest thing you can do on the pub Wi-Fi!

    When it comes to browsing that is a different matter - although that data is also encrypted (over HTTPS) you cannot trust what you are connecting to so it could be a honeypot access point and so is dangerous. OK to browse though the news on pub wifi, but not to do anything that requires passwords.

    However, your post does well to highlight the dangers of connecting to the 'pub wifi'  whereas you are really connecting to someone pretending to be the pub wifi.
  • debitcardmayhem
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    My pub has WPA2 on one of its SSIDs, and has a guest network which is open however when using banking I always use mobile data, oh and I also use VPNs too
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