How much to live on

SouthCoastBoy

Phossy said:

SouthCoastBoy said:

IMO, the biggest problem with the UK is the benefits bill for working age people, and too many people not working. 

I note that one of the government's foci is to encourage more over 50's back to work and that Pensioners are the largest part of the welfare bill by some stretch. Quite the opposite focus to most on this forum!

Personally I don't have a problem with people not working if they can support themselves without govt intervention. My issue is working age people who receive benefits when they could be actually working. 

With respect to the state pension again I have no issue with that, if you have paid your ni contributions its only fair and correct you receive the state pension.

Nebulous2

Phossy said:

SouthCoastBoy said:

IMO, the biggest problem with the UK is the benefits bill for working age people, and too many people not working. 

I note that one of the government's foci is to encourage more over 50's back to work and that Pensioners are the largest part of the welfare bill by some stretch. Quite the opposite focus to most on this forum!

Life is changing, with opting in and out of retiring being common. 

An elderly relative has 3 carers in their  70s. I doubt if any of them 'need'  to work. 

Our paperboy and community champion is close to 80. 

Japan has whole villages with no-one under 60......

 

dinosaur66

i fell into the 1 more year trap

58 now and retired 6 months ago from a job i had been doing since i was 16

wish i could go back and talk to my 38 year old self and give myself some advice.

Albermarle

Phossy said:

SouthCoastBoy said:

IMO, the biggest problem with the UK is the benefits bill for working age people, and too many people not working. 

I note that one of the government's foci is to encourage more over 50's back to work and that Pensioners are the largest part of the welfare bill by some stretch. Quite the opposite focus to most on this forum!

In the latest announcements the emphasis seems to have switched to the large number of younger people who are not working or training.

noitsnotme

Albermarle said:

Phossy said:

SouthCoastBoy said:

IMO, the biggest problem with the UK is the benefits bill for working age people, and too many people not working. 

I note that one of the government's foci is to encourage more over 50's back to work and that Pensioners are the largest part of the welfare bill by some stretch. Quite the opposite focus to most on this forum!

In the latest announcements the emphasis seems to have switched to the large number of younger people who are not working or training.

They're all trying to become the next social media sensation, "influencers", or the more recent term "content creators"!

Bravepants

noitsnotme said:

Albermarle said:

Phossy said:

SouthCoastBoy said:

IMO, the biggest problem with the UK is the benefits bill for working age people, and too many people not working. 

I note that one of the government's foci is to encourage more over 50's back to work and that Pensioners are the largest part of the welfare bill by some stretch. Quite the opposite focus to most on this forum!

In the latest announcements the emphasis seems to have switched to the large number of younger people who are not working or training.

They're all trying to become the next social media sensation, "influencers", or the more recent term "content creators"!

Or the increased lack of discipline at home resulting in a generation of the entitled and unambitious. A generation that doesn't realise how hard and cold the world can be. Couple that with a general sense that working hard doesn't provide the rewards it used to. I mean what youngster these days could even dream of owning their own home?

kempiejon

Bravepants said:

noitsnotme said:

Albermarle said:

Phossy said:

SouthCoastBoy said:

IMO, the biggest problem with the UK is the benefits bill for working age people, and too many people not working. 

I note that one of the government's foci is to encourage more over 50's back to work and that Pensioners are the largest part of the welfare bill by some stretch. Quite the opposite focus to most on this forum!

In the latest announcements the emphasis seems to have switched to the large number of younger people who are not working or training.

They're all trying to become the next social media sensation, "influencers", or the more recent term "content creators"!

Or the increased lack of discipline at home resulting in a generation of the entitled and unambitious. A generation that doesn't realise how hard and cold the world can be. Couple that with a general sense that working hard doesn't provide the rewards it used to. I mean what youngster these days could even dream of owning their own home?

Ah the old blame the grand parent hypothesis. One I have expounded on, trouble is grandies' ears are deaf.

Bravepants

kempiejon said:

Bravepants said:

noitsnotme said:

Albermarle said:

Phossy said:

SouthCoastBoy said:

IMO, the biggest problem with the UK is the benefits bill for working age people, and too many people not working. 

I note that one of the government's foci is to encourage more over 50's back to work and that Pensioners are the largest part of the welfare bill by some stretch. Quite the opposite focus to most on this forum!

In the latest announcements the emphasis seems to have switched to the large number of younger people who are not working or training.

They're all trying to become the next social media sensation, "influencers", or the more recent term "content creators"!

Or the increased lack of discipline at home resulting in a generation of the entitled and unambitious. A generation that doesn't realise how hard and cold the world can be. Couple that with a general sense that working hard doesn't provide the rewards it used to. I mean what youngster these days could even dream of owning their own home?

Ah the old blame the grand parent hypothesis. One I have expounded on, trouble is grandies' ears are deaf.

If you are suggesting I mean so called boomers, no that's not what I mean at all. I don't see how you could infer that from what I wrote!

Albermarle

noitsnotme said:

Albermarle said:

Phossy said:

SouthCoastBoy said:

IMO, the biggest problem with the UK is the benefits bill for working age people, and too many people not working. 

I note that one of the government's foci is to encourage more over 50's back to work and that Pensioners are the largest part of the welfare bill by some stretch. Quite the opposite focus to most on this forum!

In the latest announcements the emphasis seems to have switched to the large number of younger people who are not working or training.

They're all trying to become the next social media sensation, "influencers", or the more recent term "content creators"!

Or 'content curators' maybe ?

kempiejon

@Bravepants

If you are suggesting I mean so called boomers, no that's not what I mean at all. I don't see how you could infer that from what I wrote!

Oh, sorry if that's upset you. I'm not sure that is what I meant nor was it personal. The quote was for context. It's not as good now, kids are feckless, I blame the parents. Is that what you inferred from what I wrote?
Boomer is a distraction to me.