Are there any standard time of day rules for noisy DIY?

Niv

EchoLocation said:

So I had a response from my council with regards to their rules for noisy DIY. Sadly, but as expected, although they stated that they advise 'restricting work to weekdays 8am to 6pm, and Saturdays 8am to 1pm, no noisy work to be carried out late in the evening, Sundays and Bank Holidays', it is basically just a suggestion and nothing more. It holds no weight and ultimately anybody can make as much noise as they like whenever they like. One slight positive is that I have alerted them to the fact that their advice documentation is completely inadequate and missing any of the times/days they gave me, so hopefully that should be updated for others with similar enquiries.

They may as well ban DIY if they expect people to abide by that, what completely daft times they have given you. A lot of people are not even home from work by 6pm, I would work until 8-9pm, a bit later if its to finish it or if I lose track of time. 

I really don't think it is worth bothering your neighbour if they are finished by around 8pm, especially if you are icy with each other anyway as you 'could' make it worse if he is the sort.

EchoLocation

Niv said:

They may as well ban DIY if they expect people to abide by that, what completely daft times they have given you. A lot of people are not even home from work by 6pm, I would work until 8-9pm, a bit later if its to finish it or if I lose track of time.

I think that guidance, based on the context I gave them in my enquiry, is really meant for potentially extended loud and disruptive noise/vibration, not just your average bit of household maintenance - which isn't what I have issue with.

EchoLocation

RelievedSheff said:

You seem to think that the neighbour thinks that they are "entitled" in doing this work. But are you not being equally "entitled" in expecting complete silence at 7pm?

As I already replied to someone else, I posted context as to why I use the term 'entitled'. And where exactly have I said I'm 'entitled' to 'complete silence'? I don't expect any kind of silence, I'm not complaining about a bit of household noise.

...I really don't think that you have a valid complaint and the complaint to the council is really quite uncalled for.

I haven't complained to the council, I made a simple enquiry just as I have done here. I've even posted that I've no interest in getting the council involved.

Noise from DIY is hardly likely to be a long term situation and just remember that when you do any DIY or maintenance on your home the neighbour suffers the same level of noise from you.

Again, I've posted about how there is history of my neighbour undertaking lengthy and noisy DIY. This is just the lastest case. Any DIY I have undertaken, I have always kept the noise to a minimum - absolutely nothing on the levels I have had to endure - and always done it during normal daytime working hours. It seems people aren't really understanding that I'm not talking about a bit of bumping and banging as a they put a few nails in the wall, this is proper can't-hear-anything-else wall-shaking stuff, an it's not all done and over in a short period of time. And again, I repeat, not by any means for the first time.

The council have already said to you that is just guidance and holds no weight in law. What else do you expect them to do?

I don't expect them to do anything. I've not asked them to do anything. However, it's not like the council have just arbitrarily pulled those guidance times out of their a55 is it. They obviously exist as guidance for a reason, as by their own words 'noise can cause stress and affect quality of life', so their existence absolutely legitimizes my enquiry.

A lot of people have been doing DIY during lockdown. Your situation will be far from unique.

This work has nothing to do with lockdown, but it's an irrelevant point either way.

Honestly, I don't mind people replying with opposing views or alternate perspectives that may show me different ways of looking at a situation. But it seems some people don't even bother to read or just straight up ignore what's been posted, and just want use it as an excuse to tear someone down for raising a completely legitimate concern

GDB2222

EchoLocation said:

Niv said:

They may as well ban DIY if they expect people to abide by that, what completely daft times they have given you. A lot of people are not even home from work by 6pm, I would work until 8-9pm, a bit later if its to finish it or if I lose track of time.

I think that guidance, based on the context I gave them in my enquiry, is really meant for potentially extended loud and disruptive noise/vibration, not just your average bit of household maintenance - which isn't what I have issue with.

The  posts criticising you for being upset by the noise are the usual comments that you get on this forum. I would not take them to heart, and I certainly don’t think that you need to justify yourself. I know that some people are more susceptible to noise than others, and that’s not something that you have any control over.

on a practical basis, as you have found out, there’s very little you can do about your neighbour’s noise, other than continuing to ask him to tone it down a bit. 

bengalknights

I think the council guidance generally applies to professional tradesmen, i know around here its 7am to 7pm after which no more work should commence. However when it comes to individuals doing DIY or playing loud music then after 10pm would be considered noise pollution and only if occurred for 3 days in a row.

Niv

GDB2222 said:

EchoLocation said:

Niv said:

They may as well ban DIY if they expect people to abide by that, what completely daft times they have given you. A lot of people are not even home from work by 6pm, I would work until 8-9pm, a bit later if its to finish it or if I lose track of time.

I think that guidance, based on the context I gave them in my enquiry, is really meant for potentially extended loud and disruptive noise/vibration, not just your average bit of household maintenance - which isn't what I have issue with.

The  posts criticising you for being upset by the noise are the usual comments that you get on this forum. I would not take them to heart, and I certainly don’t think that you need to justify yourself. I know that some people are more susceptible to noise than others, and that’s not something that you have any control over.

on a practical basis, as you have found out, there’s very little you can do about your neighbour’s noise, other than continuing to ask him to tone it down a bit. 

I don't think that I was criticizing the OP - if i was criticising anyone it is their council! 
OP, if my post came across as criticising you then I apologie as that was not my intention.
The detail given really doesn't give me enough information to make any criticism of the OP (or the neighbour really) as we don't know how often, how loud, how late this happens. If this were a one off and finished before 8pm, then yea, OP is going a bit OTT, but they already said it has occurred before in which case I think you cant have a go at the OP on the basis of the info provided.

EchoLocation

Niv said:

I don't think that I was criticizing the OP - if i was criticising anyone it is their council! 
OP, if my post came across as criticising you then I apologie as that was not my intention.

No apology necessary, it wasn't taken as criticism. I think GDB2222 probably just quoted that particular post as it was much shorter than my other one where I was responding to criticism.

GDB2222

Yes, sorry, it was just a general comment. I’m not sure why I quoted a particular post. 

You do take quite a risk posting here.