Maps used for Planning permission

Davidtechman

Hi 
I have a question regards to maps used for planning applications.
I’m based up north and noticed planning gone in for an area near me, I looked at the maps for the proposed , but I noticed something very odd, the map was an official map used by ordinance survey etc but it has been photoshopped, they edited building locations, moved parcels of land, you wouldnt notice it by looking at it, but as I know the area and know the the man occupying some land near by, I noticed they moved the access points and road and moved one of his buildings, as a visual image of the proposed plan over its current state of the area, based on the ground and knowing boundary flats are next to his buildings and house, but they have edited his buildings and house to be further away.

can they do this or is it considered fraud or anything like that? 

Davidtechman

Also on planning portals whats it mean when it’s said There is (a number) properties associated with this application?

Does that mean any other properties associated or?

Robin9

You can respond to the application on the council's portal.

daveyjp

Rather than drip, drip of info if you provide the Council and application number details  those who may be experienced in planning will be able to provide a comprehensive response.

Doozergirl

They did it next door to me.  Just lied, or twisted the truth to such an extent that my objection was pages long, and I'm the kind of person that likes to keep things short.  

The planning officers did pick up on some of it. Made them redo their tree report to include ones they deliberately missed off.   That didn't save the 2 stunning copper beech trees that would have had TPOs put on them.  They were felled two weeks after the date of their tree report, where said trees were conspicuously missing from the plans and photographs.  

The list went on.  They don't care.   Planning officers don't have the time to pore over and analyse everything to the smallest detail.  Neighbours will know better by instinct.  

All you can do is show them.  

AdrianC

Davidtechman said:

Hi 
I have a question regards to maps used for planning applications.
I’m based up north and noticed planning gone in for an area near me, I looked at the maps for the proposed , but I noticed something very odd, the map was an official map used by ordinance survey etc but it has been photoshopped, they edited building locations, moved parcels of land, you wouldnt notice it by looking at it, but as I know the area and know the the man occupying some land near by, I noticed they moved the access points and road and moved one of his buildings, as a visual image of the proposed plan over its current state of the area, based on the ground and knowing boundary flats are next to his buildings and house, but they have edited his buildings and house to be further away.

can they do this or is it considered fraud or anything like that? 

This is the map that the applicant has submitted?

Comment on the application and state that. If you don't want to make a negative comment, an objection, but simply want the record correct, then you can make a neutral comment.

Davidtechman

Thanks for comments, I’ll make a comment on the portal. Was just very odd to see

Titus_Wadd

We've been through something similar to Doozergirl's experience.  Our nieghbour has submitted multiple planning applications whilst intimidating us not to comment.  It peaked with a home invasion by the lunatic neighbour while I was home alone. Police response was a little disappointing, viewing it as a civil neighbour dispute!  Meanwhile the LPA have been very helpful; but they can't help unless they know what the applicant is up to.  It's definitely worth contacting them.  There should be a list of contacts on the planning portal: ward councillors, planning department emails etc.  As Doozergirl says it is worth spoon-feeding as much detail as possible, photos original maps etc.  They probably don't know the area as well as the residents.  I've found it easier to type it all into an email and attach any photos etc and mail it to the named LPA officer.  I also found the planning portal timed out too quickly and didn't allow the attachments.  Also there's no limit to the number of times you comments until the consultation period closes.

If the applicant is misrepresenting the access to roads etc it might be worth contacting the County Council Highways dept, Local Council Technical and Environmental Health department if there's anything that they might take view on, and copy any emails to the named Ward Councillors.

Good Luck!

molerat

Doozergirl said:

They did it next door to me.  Just lied, or twisted the truth to such an extent that my objection was pages long, and I'm the kind of person that likes to keep things short.  

The planning officers did pick up on some of it. Made them redo their tree report to include ones they deliberately missed off.   That didn't save the 2 stunning copper beech trees that would have had TPOs put on them.  They were felled two weeks after the date of their tree report, where said trees were conspicuously missing from the plans and photographs.  

The list went on.  They don't care.   Planning officers don't have the time to pore over and analyse everything to the smallest detail.  Neighbours will know better by instinct.  

All you can do is show them.  

Builders (mega construction company) by me got caught out after having a couple of trees down.  Taken to court, apologised profusely for their mistake, promised to plant 20+ new trees (in a completely different location) and fined a couple of £K.  Overall cost them less than having to go through formally applying to remove the trees plus the added value of the extra houses they squeezed onto the plot.  Won't try that one again will they (not) !!

Doozergirl

molerat said:

Doozergirl said:

They did it next door to me.  Just lied, or twisted the truth to such an extent that my objection was pages long, and I'm the kind of person that likes to keep things short.  

The planning officers did pick up on some of it. Made them redo their tree report to include ones they deliberately missed off.   That didn't save the 2 stunning copper beech trees that would have had TPOs put on them.  They were felled two weeks after the date of their tree report, where said trees were conspicuously missing from the plans and photographs.  

The list went on.  They don't care.   Planning officers don't have the time to pore over and analyse everything to the smallest detail.  Neighbours will know better by instinct.  

All you can do is show them.  

Builders (mega construction company) by me got caught out after having a couple of trees down.  Taken to court, apologised profusely for their mistake, promised to plant 20+ new trees (in a completely different location) and fined a couple of £K.  Overall cost them less than having to go through formally applying to remove the trees plus the added value of the extra houses they squeezed onto the plot.  Won't try that one again will they (not) !!

Easy when you know how, isn't it.  😞