Debt options

StupidFool89
StupidFool89 Posts: 10 Forumite
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edited 14 December 2020 at 5:11PM in Debt-free wannabe
I’ve stupidly ran up a large debt on 2 credit cards as well as a loan and need to decide whether a DMP or a secured loan is the better option? Any advice on which is the better choice in both the short and long term?
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  • They're massively different things, though the answer is probably neither.

    Head to the DFW boards for advice on tackling the debt.
  • sourcrates
    sourcrates Posts: 31,024 Ambassador
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    Moved for you.
    I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the Debt free wannabe, Credit file and ratings, and Bankruptcy and living with it boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.For free non-judgemental debt advice, contact either Stepchange, National Debtline, or CitizensAdviceBureaux.Link to SOA Calculator- https://www.stoozing.com/soa.php The "provit letter" is here-https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2607247/letter-when-you-know-nothing-about-about-the-debt-aka-prove-it-letter
  • I’ve spoken to Payplan who have advised that a DMP is possible as the debt is becoming unaffordable. I spoke to an advisor about a Secured Loan and their rates are ok.

    I can’t remortgage as I’ve consolidated a small amount in the last 5 years and require to wait before doing this at the end of my fixed rate, thinking I couldn’t borrow on my mortgage I have secured a new fixed rate already but still have this other debt
  • sourcrates
    sourcrates Posts: 31,024 Ambassador
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    edited 14 December 2020 at 6:19PM
    I see you`ve also posted in the stepchange advisors thread, its best just to stick to one thread on the same subject, as it avoids cross posting and the confusion associated with that, turning unsecured debt into secured is never a good plan, you really need to address the reasons why you racked up this debt in the first place, because if you don`t no amount of consolodation is going to help you, as you will just rinse and repeat all the time, as you have done already, eventually you will be out of options and looking at bankrupcy if you continue on this destructive path, time for a wake up call, and now !!
    Your best posting your SOA so we can see the figures you have to work with, look in the sticky thread for the SOA calculator, format for MSE, and post on this thread.
    I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the Debt free wannabe, Credit file and ratings, and Bankruptcy and living with it boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.For free non-judgemental debt advice, contact either Stepchange, National Debtline, or CitizensAdviceBureaux.Link to SOA Calculator- https://www.stoozing.com/soa.php The "provit letter" is here-https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2607247/letter-when-you-know-nothing-about-about-the-debt-aka-prove-it-letter
  • Thank you, I’ve already woke up which is why I’ve been looking at some of the options available but I was naive in the way I used the  CC’s to rack up the debt. I will look at the SOA thread to try and post that
  • CC 1 £7000 at 17.48%
    CC 2 £6400 at 19.3%
    Loan £13000 at 11.9%
    Payments of £550 each month combined and paying around £925 of general bills each month including a mortgage
  • As sourcrates has said, consolidation is very very very rarely a good idea. You’ve already consolidated and are in a worse situation for it. How would consolidating help you again? Without trying to be harsh here you need to get the idea out of your head that further debt will help. A DMP is a great way to repay debts at a rate you can afford whilst addressing your spending and learning to budget. Which is not easy at all, I’m still trying to learn myself! Good luck to you 
  • ryanm8655
    ryanm8655 Posts: 1,183 Forumite
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    Fill in a proper SOA and people will be able to advise. I would go for a DMP before a secured loan...

    August 2019: £28.8k

    November 2020: £0 (0% interest)

    My debt free diary: https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/77330320#Comment_77330320


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    Number of children......... 0
    Number of cars owned.................... 2

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    Partners monthly income after tax....... 850
    Benefits................................ 0
    Other income............................ 0
    Total monthly income.................... 2350

    Monthly Expense Details
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    Secured/HP loan repayments.............. 173
    Rent.................................... 0
    Management charge (leasehold property).. 0
    Council tax.......................... 145
    Electricity............................. 65
    Gas..................................... 60
    Oil..................................... 0
    Water rates............................. 41
    Telephone/Broadband (land line)......... 22
    Mobile phone............................ 35
    TV Licence.............................. 160
    Satellite/Cable TV...................... 66
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    Groceries etc. ......................... 125
    Clothing................................ 30
    Petrol/diesel........................... 100
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    Pet insurance/vet bills................. 0
    Buildings/Contents Insurance..........22
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    Car PCP debt ...... 12500....(173)......0
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    Description............Debt......Monthly...APR
    CC BoS..................6400........145......19.3%
    CC Virgin................7000..........92.....17.48%
    L Post Office.........13000.......336......11.9%
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    Expenses (including HP & secured debts). 1,795
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    Monthly UNsecured debt repayments....... 573
    Amount short for making debt repayments. -18

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    Total assets (things you own)........... 139,000
    Total HP & Secured debt................. -77,500
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  • SusieT
    SusieT Posts: 1,267 Forumite
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    edited 15 December 2020 at 8:09PM
    TV licence 160 a month?? 
    Even if you only put that down to the monthly cost and all the other numbers are accurate you have enough to overpay £100 a month on the highest interest rate card, and pay some into an emergency fund so that you have something there if you need to replace or repair something.
    The loan will be repaid in about 3 years, so if you can cut down wherever possible by things like checking for the best rate on insurances etc until then it will let you pay back the cards a lot faster. 
    Credit card debt - NIL
    Home improvement secured loans 30,130/41,000 and 23,156/28,000 End 2027 and 2029
    Mortgage 64,513/100,000 End Nov 2035
    2022 all rolling into new mortgage + extra to finish house. 125,000 End 2036
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