ParkingEye Popla appeal

Pauli2

Hi all, some advice please as  a registered keeper - issued a PCN for a 9 minute stay in pub car park. Appealed to PE - rejected obviously - not admitted who was driving, my grounds for appeal replied to in a standard Q&A answer sheet. My grounds to POPLA are 1.  Grace Period, 2. The signage - main sign on entrance is poorly lit and marked, 3 The operator has not shown that the individual who it is pursuing is in fact the driver who was liable for the charge  and 4. No Evidence of Landowner Authority - the operator is put to strict proof of full compliance with the BPA Code of Practice. I have not yet complained to the pub - any templates for this? I have copied and pasted a few winning Popla appeals from here, just wondered if I should boost it or not go into the ins and outs too much. Thanks.

Coupon-mad

 The operator has not shown that the individual who it is pursuing is in fact the driver who was liable for the charge  

Forget that unless it was a golden ticket (see post #3 of the NEWBIES thread for a picture of the wording).

 I have not yet complained to the pub - any templates for this?

Do that now.  

NO TEMPLATES. IT'S A COMPLAINT!   YOU HAVE TO WRITE IT.
THIS IS NOT RESOLVER (DREADFUL IMHO). WE HATE TEMPLATE COMPLAINTS.  LESS EFFECTIVE!

Umkomaas

Was the car par being used outside of pub opening hours?

Pauli2

Unfortunately not a golden ticket. 
The pub was open I believe although with Covid etc. i'm not 100%.  

Redx

Then your best option is a complaint to the pub or brewery or pub chain , not a popla appeal !!

Plan A is your best option , always

I do not believe that you will win at Popla unless you can get a win on no landowner authority or poor and inadequate signage

If they complied with POFA then not admitting who was driving is a red herring and irrelevant
Parking Eye tend to comply with POFA and with the BPA CoP

You have already appealed to PE and are now looking at a Popla appeal , the question is why ??

Why did you decide that paying was not an option and appealing was ?
Why did you embark on the appeal routes ? There must be a reason ?

Coupon-mad

Why did you go there for 9 mins?

Don't tell us it's another 'pulling in to take a call' when you could pull over on street.   So many people here pointlessly look for a car park, not understanding that double yellows are for pulling over on.

Pauli2

The driver at the time was picking a subscription up at a nearby chemist, the road is not safe to pull in. The ticket machine also requires change of which they had none.

Coupon-mad

OMG this is why parking firms exist.  You don't fly park like that, you find a side road (on street).

Pauli2

Redx said:

Then your best option is a complaint to the pub or brewery or pub chain , not a popla appeal !!

Plan A is your best option , always

I do not believe that you will win at Popla unless you can get a win on no landowner authority or poor and inadequate signage

If they complied with POFA then not admitting who was driving is a red herring and irrelevant
Parking Eye tend to comply with POFA and with the BPA CoP

You have already appealed to PE and are now looking at a Popla appeal , the question is why ??

Why did you decide that paying was not an option and appealing was ?
Why did you embark on the appeal routes ? There must be a reason ?

Cos they're rip offs and bullies? Why would I pay 60 or 100 quid for the equivalence of 60p. 

beamerguy

Pauli2 said:

Redx said:

Then your best option is a complaint to the pub or brewery or pub chain , not a popla appeal !!

Plan A is your best option , always

I do not believe that you will win at Popla unless you can get a win on no landowner authority or poor and inadequate signage

If they complied with POFA then not admitting who was driving is a red herring and irrelevant
Parking Eye tend to comply with POFA and with the BPA CoP

You have already appealed to PE and are now looking at a Popla appeal , the question is why ??

Why did you decide that paying was not an option and appealing was ?
Why did you embark on the appeal routes ? There must be a reason ?

Cos they're rip offs and bullies? Why would I pay 60 or 100 quid for the equivalence of 60p. 

 You fell into a trap but a legal one.  No doubt there were signs telling you this and you went on private land.
You are the prefect customer for a parking cowboy

Redx

Pauli2 said:

Redx said:

Then your best option is a complaint to the pub or brewery or pub chain , not a popla appeal !!

Plan A is your best option , always

I do not believe that you will win at Popla unless you can get a win on no landowner authority or poor and inadequate signage

If they complied with POFA then not admitting who was driving is a red herring and irrelevant
Parking Eye tend to comply with POFA and with the BPA CoP

You have already appealed to PE and are now looking at a Popla appeal , the question is why ??

Why did you decide that paying was not an option and appealing was ?
Why did you embark on the appeal routes ? There must be a reason ?

Cos they're rip offs and bullies? Why would I pay 60 or 100 quid for the equivalence of 60p. 

To avoid a £180 court case ! (When you have little chance of winning)

If you cannot pay , don't stay !!      Bilking is bilking !