Child tax credits not counted in IPA's / IPO's

debt_doctor

Fantastic !:T :T :T

Much appreciaited.

DD

fermi

Addicted2Chocolate wrote: »

I think i will be able to find at least the case name for the high court case on wednesday. I will post details if i can find it.

That would be great. If we have that then we can either access it ourselves or have a word with someone who can.

fermi

Meant to post this before. The IS have now updated the TM to make this issue quite a bit clearer.

31.7.9 State benefits

April 2008

Whilst an IPA should not be sought where the bankrupt's only source of income is state benefit [note 3], the official receiver should not automatically discount the possibility of obtaining a contribution from a bankrupt who has surplus income but is also in receipt of benefit. Any calculation to identify surplus income should include all available income, including state benefits, paid to an individual for the general benefit of that individual and their family. This includes child tax credit, which is also a state benefit and comprises part of the income available to the bankrupt and his/her family, against which an IPA can be calculated. The person making the income and expenditure calculation (usually the examiner) should initially ascertain whether the bankrupt is also in receipt of non-benefit income. If this is the case, an IPA should be considered, the total income should be established (see other income sources at paragraph 31.7.7) and the bankrupt's reasonable expenses deducted (see paragraph 31.7.19) to cover his/her reasonable domestic needs. An assessment can then be made as to whether the bankrupt is in receipt of surplus income. If an IPA is to be sought, any surplus should be less than or equal to income from the source other than benefits. It should be remembered that whilst the bankrupt's total income (including state benefits) should be included in the calculation of surplus income, it is the income from sources other than the benefit(s) which is providing the payments under the IPA/IPO, which is why an IPA should only be sought to the extent of the non benefit income.

The only exception to the inclusion of state benefits in an income payments calculation is where a bankrupt is in receipt of child benefit, which is not an income based benefit (unlike child tax credit, see above). The High Court has stated as a matter of public policy that child benefit should not be included in the statement of income when applying for an IPO and there is no reason why the same principle should not be extended to cover IPAs.

Where a bankrupt’s income solely comprises state benefits, it is unlikely that a surplus will arise except where they are in receipt of non-means tested benefits, for example Disability Living Allowance. The official receiver should consider that it is always open to the bankrupt who has a surplus and wishes to contribute, to make voluntary payments. If the bankrupt was minded to contribute on a voluntary basis, having been informed that their income appeared to be sufficient to produce a surplus taking in to account their reasonable domestic needs, a voluntary agreement could be incorporated into an IPA, but it would have to be clearly noted that no enforcement action would be taken if the bankrupt failed to make agreed voluntary payments.

The Department of Work and Pensions website provides useful information regarding allowances and benefits currently in force and can be accessed at http://www.dwp.gov.uk/.

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But it is still paid for the benefit of children as the name implies so i get the feeling someone may take them to task on that discision before long:rolleyes:

Bottem line it is not the BR,s income so shouldnt be treated as such and i think thats how certain organizations will see it;)

fermi

Yep. They have clarified their position. Whether it is right or justifiable is a whole other argument.:rolleyes: