Gap in the Market

RelievedSheff

gabby71 said:

RelievedSheff said:

gabby71 said:

SpiderLegs said:

gabby71 said:

SpiderLegs said:

gabby71 said:

SpiderLegs said:

gabby71 said:

SpiderLegs said:

gabby71 said:

SpiderLegs said:

gabby71 said:

SpiderLegs said:

gabby71 said:

For people who are unable to buy a property and have a slim chance of getting a housing association property (or don’t want to live on a housing association estate) the only option is private renting where you are at risk of getting notice to leave at any time, can’t really make it your own or put down roots...I’m surprised the government/developers haven’t realised there are many out there who would jump at the opportunity to have the chance of a guaranteed long term tenancy

The average tenancy length is around 4 years.

I’m unsure how that comment relates?

What length do you consider to be a long term tenancy?

As long as you want to stay, a place you can settle in, improve, not worry about the landlord selling up

What you are suggesting is pure fantasy.

Seems not - previous poster Amandacat has confirmed there are developments specifically for long term renters- seems like some developers are jumping on 👍🏼

Amandacat has told us a nice little story with no actual evidence.
I’m sure when we do see the detail we’ll be able to judge whether these schemes allow the ‘renter’ to stay there ad infinitum with no ability for the ‘landlord’ to seek repossession.
How you think what amandacat described is the same as your OP or your follow up nonsense I don’t know.

FYI Rent to buy schemes have been around for quite a while and are generally more expensive ways to end up buying a house. They are the housing equivalent of PCP car finance. What they are not is an everlasting rental scheme.

Do you specifically troll these forums waiting to berate and belittle people for their queries and questions??

‘How you think what amandacat described is the same as your OP or your follow up nonsense I don’t know’

pathetic 😴 bore off

Well to be fair I just asked you how long you considered a long term tenancy to be. Your response was ‘as long as the tenant wants’.

I can say with reasonable confidence that most people would consider that to be nonsense.

Ok mate 👍🏼 If you feel the need to continue spouting your words of wisdom here at least ensure your knowledge is up to speed - another member has very kindly sent me some information that very clearly shows you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about 🙄
http://www.themill-canton.co.uk/
brand new homes for rent or sale direct from the developer - in Wales

Thanks. I’ve been through the website but I can’t find the part where it says you can rent a property and never be evicted. Can you point it out for me?

https://themill-canton.rentals/faqs/#1543506513508-38c8a3c4-25f2

So they can evict you for quite a number of reasons then if you don't adhereto the terms and conditions of your rental agreement. Much the same as any other landlord. 

And if you are short of money. Guess what? They still want their rent.

Nothing unusual there then.

I would think normal decent people would have no problem adhering to the t&c’s - they aren’t exactly restrictive are they? And the same with paying rent, normal decent people pay their rent every month would you believe 🙄
I think you are clutching at straws now mate - just admit you didn’t know this type of scheme existed and it is a great way for decent people to rent a home for as long as they wish 

I don't know you from Adam so certainly not a mate.

I have no Straws to grasp. I have a home to call my own that is secure.

I am well aware that these schemes exist. My job involves working on housing development design with all the major house builders and local authorities. I work on these projects day in day out. Almost all of the projects I work on have an affordable housing element. 

What you have found is no different to renting from a local authority or a housing association or a private landlord. 

gabby71

SpiderLegs said:

gabby71 said:

RelievedSheff said:

SpiderLegs said:

gabby71 said:

SpiderLegs said:

gabby71 said:

SpiderLegs said:

gabby71 said:

SpiderLegs said:

gabby71 said:

SpiderLegs said:

gabby71 said:

SpiderLegs said:

gabby71 said:

For people who are unable to buy a property and have a slim chance of getting a housing association property (or don’t want to live on a housing association estate) the only option is private renting where you are at risk of getting notice to leave at any time, can’t really make it your own or put down roots...I’m surprised the government/developers haven’t realised there are many out there who would jump at the opportunity to have the chance of a guaranteed long term tenancy

The average tenancy length is around 4 years.

I’m unsure how that comment relates?

What length do you consider to be a long term tenancy?

As long as you want to stay, a place you can settle in, improve, not worry about the landlord selling up

What you are suggesting is pure fantasy.

Seems not - previous poster Amandacat has confirmed there are developments specifically for long term renters- seems like some developers are jumping on 👍🏼

Amandacat has told us a nice little story with no actual evidence.
I’m sure when we do see the detail we’ll be able to judge whether these schemes allow the ‘renter’ to stay there ad infinitum with no ability for the ‘landlord’ to seek repossession.
How you think what amandacat described is the same as your OP or your follow up nonsense I don’t know.

FYI Rent to buy schemes have been around for quite a while and are generally more expensive ways to end up buying a house. They are the housing equivalent of PCP car finance. What they are not is an everlasting rental scheme.

Do you specifically troll these forums waiting to berate and belittle people for their queries and questions??

‘How you think what amandacat described is the same as your OP or your follow up nonsense I don’t know’

pathetic 😴 bore off

Well to be fair I just asked you how long you considered a long term tenancy to be. Your response was ‘as long as the tenant wants’.

I can say with reasonable confidence that most people would consider that to be nonsense.

Ok mate 👍🏼 If you feel the need to continue spouting your words of wisdom here at least ensure your knowledge is up to speed - another member has very kindly sent me some information that very clearly shows you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about 🙄
http://www.themill-canton.co.uk/
brand new homes for rent or sale direct from the developer - in Wales

Thanks. I’ve been through the website but I can’t find the part where it says you can rent a property and never be evicted. Can you point it out for me?

Might take a while to find that!

No - i’ve already posted the relevant section above, Spiderlegs clearly missed the part that states you can rent the property for as long as you wish, as long as you pay your rent and adhere to their t&c’s 👍🏼

No gabs I saw that bit. It doesn’t say you can never be evicted, as you have just alluded to in your comment above. I’m not really sure where you’re going with this. All you’ve found is a property developer who rents out their properties on the same terms as any other landlord.
granted you probably have a bit more implied security due to their size, but this is still fixed term followed by monthly periodic.

I give up, you have already backtracked several times in this thread and I just can’t be bothered splitting hairs with someone as pedantic as you 🙄

RelievedSheff

gabby71 said:

SpiderLegs said:

gabby71 said:

RelievedSheff said:

SpiderLegs said:

gabby71 said:

SpiderLegs said:

gabby71 said:

SpiderLegs said:

gabby71 said:

SpiderLegs said:

gabby71 said:

SpiderLegs said:

gabby71 said:

SpiderLegs said:

gabby71 said:

For people who are unable to buy a property and have a slim chance of getting a housing association property (or don’t want to live on a housing association estate) the only option is private renting where you are at risk of getting notice to leave at any time, can’t really make it your own or put down roots...I’m surprised the government/developers haven’t realised there are many out there who would jump at the opportunity to have the chance of a guaranteed long term tenancy

The average tenancy length is around 4 years.

I’m unsure how that comment relates?

What length do you consider to be a long term tenancy?

As long as you want to stay, a place you can settle in, improve, not worry about the landlord selling up

What you are suggesting is pure fantasy.

Seems not - previous poster Amandacat has confirmed there are developments specifically for long term renters- seems like some developers are jumping on 👍🏼

Amandacat has told us a nice little story with no actual evidence.
I’m sure when we do see the detail we’ll be able to judge whether these schemes allow the ‘renter’ to stay there ad infinitum with no ability for the ‘landlord’ to seek repossession.
How you think what amandacat described is the same as your OP or your follow up nonsense I don’t know.

FYI Rent to buy schemes have been around for quite a while and are generally more expensive ways to end up buying a house. They are the housing equivalent of PCP car finance. What they are not is an everlasting rental scheme.

Do you specifically troll these forums waiting to berate and belittle people for their queries and questions??

‘How you think what amandacat described is the same as your OP or your follow up nonsense I don’t know’

pathetic 😴 bore off

Well to be fair I just asked you how long you considered a long term tenancy to be. Your response was ‘as long as the tenant wants’.

I can say with reasonable confidence that most people would consider that to be nonsense.

Ok mate 👍🏼 If you feel the need to continue spouting your words of wisdom here at least ensure your knowledge is up to speed - another member has very kindly sent me some information that very clearly shows you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about 🙄
http://www.themill-canton.co.uk/
brand new homes for rent or sale direct from the developer - in Wales

Thanks. I’ve been through the website but I can’t find the part where it says you can rent a property and never be evicted. Can you point it out for me?

Might take a while to find that!

No - i’ve already posted the relevant section above, Spiderlegs clearly missed the part that states you can rent the property for as long as you wish, as long as you pay your rent and adhere to their t&c’s 👍🏼

No gabs I saw that bit. It doesn’t say you can never be evicted, as you have just alluded to in your comment above. I’m not really sure where you’re going with this. All you’ve found is a property developer who rents out their properties on the same terms as any other landlord.
granted you probably have a bit more implied security due to their size, but this is still fixed term followed by monthly periodic.

I give up, you have already backtracked several times in this thread and I just can’t be bothered splitting hairs with someone as pedantic as you 🙄

I suggest you read your first post again 🤔

gabby71

RelievedSheff said:

gabby71 said:

RelievedSheff said:

gabby71 said:

SpiderLegs said:

gabby71 said:

SpiderLegs said:

gabby71 said:

SpiderLegs said:

gabby71 said:

SpiderLegs said:

gabby71 said:

SpiderLegs said:

gabby71 said:

SpiderLegs said:

gabby71 said:

For people who are unable to buy a property and have a slim chance of getting a housing association property (or don’t want to live on a housing association estate) the only option is private renting where you are at risk of getting notice to leave at any time, can’t really make it your own or put down roots...I’m surprised the government/developers haven’t realised there are many out there who would jump at the opportunity to have the chance of a guaranteed long term tenancy

The average tenancy length is around 4 years.

I’m unsure how that comment relates?

What length do you consider to be a long term tenancy?

As long as you want to stay, a place you can settle in, improve, not worry about the landlord selling up

What you are suggesting is pure fantasy.

Seems not - previous poster Amandacat has confirmed there are developments specifically for long term renters- seems like some developers are jumping on 👍🏼

Amandacat has told us a nice little story with no actual evidence.
I’m sure when we do see the detail we’ll be able to judge whether these schemes allow the ‘renter’ to stay there ad infinitum with no ability for the ‘landlord’ to seek repossession.
How you think what amandacat described is the same as your OP or your follow up nonsense I don’t know.

FYI Rent to buy schemes have been around for quite a while and are generally more expensive ways to end up buying a house. They are the housing equivalent of PCP car finance. What they are not is an everlasting rental scheme.

Do you specifically troll these forums waiting to berate and belittle people for their queries and questions??

‘How you think what amandacat described is the same as your OP or your follow up nonsense I don’t know’

pathetic 😴 bore off

Well to be fair I just asked you how long you considered a long term tenancy to be. Your response was ‘as long as the tenant wants’.

I can say with reasonable confidence that most people would consider that to be nonsense.

Ok mate 👍🏼 If you feel the need to continue spouting your words of wisdom here at least ensure your knowledge is up to speed - another member has very kindly sent me some information that very clearly shows you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about 🙄
http://www.themill-canton.co.uk/
brand new homes for rent or sale direct from the developer - in Wales

Thanks. I’ve been through the website but I can’t find the part where it says you can rent a property and never be evicted. Can you point it out for me?

https://themill-canton.rentals/faqs/#1543506513508-38c8a3c4-25f2

So they can evict you for quite a number of reasons then if you don't adhereto the terms and conditions of your rental agreement. Much the same as any other landlord. 

And if you are short of money. Guess what? They still want their rent.

Nothing unusual there then.

I would think normal decent people would have no problem adhering to the t&c’s - they aren’t exactly restrictive are they? And the same with paying rent, normal decent people pay their rent every month would you believe 🙄
I think you are clutching at straws now mate - just admit you didn’t know this type of scheme existed and it is a great way for decent people to rent a home for as long as they wish 

I don't know you from Adam so certainly not a mate.

I have no Straws to grasp. I have a home to call my own that is secure.

I am well aware that these schemes exist. My job involves working on housing development design with all the major house builders and local authorities. I work on these projects day in day out. Almost all of the projects I work on have an affordable housing element. 

What you have found is no different to renting from a local authority or a housing association or a private landlord. 

Oh dear 😩 i’m giving up on this now - you just haven’t managed to grasp my point! Good luck in your ‘secure’ home

Slithery

BigD74 said:

How to solve this? Any new tenancy has a 6 or 12 month probation period, to prove the tenants pays the rent on time and looks after the property, after which time the tenant is offered an "open ended" tenancy without end date. The landlord needs to give 6-months notice to end it, the tenant 3 months. 

So identical to the current situation except the tenant now needs to give more notice. That's just making things worse.

RelievedSheff

gabby71 said:

RelievedSheff said:

gabby71 said:

RelievedSheff said:

gabby71 said:

SpiderLegs said:

gabby71 said:

SpiderLegs said:

gabby71 said:

SpiderLegs said:

gabby71 said:

SpiderLegs said:

gabby71 said:

SpiderLegs said:

gabby71 said:

SpiderLegs said:

gabby71 said:

For people who are unable to buy a property and have a slim chance of getting a housing association property (or don’t want to live on a housing association estate) the only option is private renting where you are at risk of getting notice to leave at any time, can’t really make it your own or put down roots...I’m surprised the government/developers haven’t realised there are many out there who would jump at the opportunity to have the chance of a guaranteed long term tenancy

The average tenancy length is around 4 years.

I’m unsure how that comment relates?

What length do you consider to be a long term tenancy?

As long as you want to stay, a place you can settle in, improve, not worry about the landlord selling up

What you are suggesting is pure fantasy.

Seems not - previous poster Amandacat has confirmed there are developments specifically for long term renters- seems like some developers are jumping on 👍🏼

Amandacat has told us a nice little story with no actual evidence.
I’m sure when we do see the detail we’ll be able to judge whether these schemes allow the ‘renter’ to stay there ad infinitum with no ability for the ‘landlord’ to seek repossession.
How you think what amandacat described is the same as your OP or your follow up nonsense I don’t know.

FYI Rent to buy schemes have been around for quite a while and are generally more expensive ways to end up buying a house. They are the housing equivalent of PCP car finance. What they are not is an everlasting rental scheme.

Do you specifically troll these forums waiting to berate and belittle people for their queries and questions??

‘How you think what amandacat described is the same as your OP or your follow up nonsense I don’t know’

pathetic 😴 bore off

Well to be fair I just asked you how long you considered a long term tenancy to be. Your response was ‘as long as the tenant wants’.

I can say with reasonable confidence that most people would consider that to be nonsense.

Ok mate 👍🏼 If you feel the need to continue spouting your words of wisdom here at least ensure your knowledge is up to speed - another member has very kindly sent me some information that very clearly shows you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about 🙄
http://www.themill-canton.co.uk/
brand new homes for rent or sale direct from the developer - in Wales

Thanks. I’ve been through the website but I can’t find the part where it says you can rent a property and never be evicted. Can you point it out for me?

https://themill-canton.rentals/faqs/#1543506513508-38c8a3c4-25f2

So they can evict you for quite a number of reasons then if you don't adhereto the terms and conditions of your rental agreement. Much the same as any other landlord. 

And if you are short of money. Guess what? They still want their rent.

Nothing unusual there then.

I would think normal decent people would have no problem adhering to the t&c’s - they aren’t exactly restrictive are they? And the same with paying rent, normal decent people pay their rent every month would you believe 🙄
I think you are clutching at straws now mate - just admit you didn’t know this type of scheme existed and it is a great way for decent people to rent a home for as long as they wish 

I don't know you from Adam so certainly not a mate.

I have no Straws to grasp. I have a home to call my own that is secure.

I am well aware that these schemes exist. My job involves working on housing development design with all the major house builders and local authorities. I work on these projects day in day out. Almost all of the projects I work on have an affordable housing element. 

What you have found is no different to renting from a local authority or a housing association or a private landlord. 

Oh dear 😩 i’m giving up on this now - you just haven’t managed to grasp my point! Good luck in your ‘secure’ home

When you find that gap in the market. Report back.

amandacat

The example I was referring to is below. The state on their website that you can rent for as long as you like 
https://placefirst.co.uk/

gabby71

RelievedSheff said:

gabby71 said:

RelievedSheff said:

gabby71 said:

RelievedSheff said:

gabby71 said:

SpiderLegs said:

gabby71 said:

SpiderLegs said:

gabby71 said:

SpiderLegs said:

gabby71 said:

SpiderLegs said:

gabby71 said:

SpiderLegs said:

gabby71 said:

SpiderLegs said:

gabby71 said:

For people who are unable to buy a property and have a slim chance of getting a housing association property (or don’t want to live on a housing association estate) the only option is private renting where you are at risk of getting notice to leave at any time, can’t really make it your own or put down roots...I’m surprised the government/developers haven’t realised there are many out there who would jump at the opportunity to have the chance of a guaranteed long term tenancy

The average tenancy length is around 4 years.

I’m unsure how that comment relates?

What length do you consider to be a long term tenancy?

As long as you want to stay, a place you can settle in, improve, not worry about the landlord selling up

What you are suggesting is pure fantasy.

Seems not - previous poster Amandacat has confirmed there are developments specifically for long term renters- seems like some developers are jumping on 👍🏼

Amandacat has told us a nice little story with no actual evidence.
I’m sure when we do see the detail we’ll be able to judge whether these schemes allow the ‘renter’ to stay there ad infinitum with no ability for the ‘landlord’ to seek repossession.
How you think what amandacat described is the same as your OP or your follow up nonsense I don’t know.

FYI Rent to buy schemes have been around for quite a while and are generally more expensive ways to end up buying a house. They are the housing equivalent of PCP car finance. What they are not is an everlasting rental scheme.

Do you specifically troll these forums waiting to berate and belittle people for their queries and questions??

‘How you think what amandacat described is the same as your OP or your follow up nonsense I don’t know’

pathetic 😴 bore off

Well to be fair I just asked you how long you considered a long term tenancy to be. Your response was ‘as long as the tenant wants’.

I can say with reasonable confidence that most people would consider that to be nonsense.

Ok mate 👍🏼 If you feel the need to continue spouting your words of wisdom here at least ensure your knowledge is up to speed - another member has very kindly sent me some information that very clearly shows you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about 🙄
http://www.themill-canton.co.uk/
brand new homes for rent or sale direct from the developer - in Wales

Thanks. I’ve been through the website but I can’t find the part where it says you can rent a property and never be evicted. Can you point it out for me?

https://themill-canton.rentals/faqs/#1543506513508-38c8a3c4-25f2

So they can evict you for quite a number of reasons then if you don't adhereto the terms and conditions of your rental agreement. Much the same as any other landlord. 

And if you are short of money. Guess what? They still want their rent.

Nothing unusual there then.

I would think normal decent people would have no problem adhering to the t&c’s - they aren’t exactly restrictive are they? And the same with paying rent, normal decent people pay their rent every month would you believe 🙄
I think you are clutching at straws now mate - just admit you didn’t know this type of scheme existed and it is a great way for decent people to rent a home for as long as they wish 

I don't know you from Adam so certainly not a mate.

I have no Straws to grasp. I have a home to call my own that is secure.

I am well aware that these schemes exist. My job involves working on housing development design with all the major house builders and local authorities. I work on these projects day in day out. Almost all of the projects I work on have an affordable housing element. 

What you have found is no different to renting from a local authority or a housing association or a private landlord. 

Oh dear 😩 i’m giving up on this now - you just haven’t managed to grasp my point! Good luck in your ‘secure’ home

When you find that gap in the market. Report back.

I think we have all identified there isn’t a gap in the market as there are developers doing exactly what I was querying 👍🏼

gabby71

amandacat said:

The example I was referring to is below. The state on their website that you can rent for as long as you like 
https://placefirst.co.uk/

Thank you 😊 

68ComebackSpecial

amandacat said:

The example I was referring to is below. The state on their website that you can rent for as long as you like 
https://placefirst.co.uk/

That's the headline. What do the tenancy agreements say?