changing from prepayment to credit meters

davythree

Hi

Does anyone know of a company that doesn't charge to have standard (non smart) meters installed?
Bulb have informed us they will install smart meters for free but will charge £120 to install the electric standard meter.

Thanks

imeach

Why don't you want smart?
Nearly all suppliers will be under pressure to install smart meters 

davythree

imeach said:

Why don't you want smart?
Nearly all suppliers will be under pressure to install smart meters 

So I’m guessing you don’t know the answer to my question?
I don’t need a smart meter. I can enter the meter readings myself.

BedrockFred

davythree said:

imeach said:

Why don't you want smart?
Nearly all suppliers will be under pressure to install smart meters 

So I’m guessing you don’t know the answer to my question?
I don’t need a smart meter. I can enter the meter readings myself.

I agree there is no benefit at all for someone like me I can read my meter and send in readings I can also keep a check on my usage
The little monitor you get to show your energy usage  is a gimmick that I bet most don't look at and end up slinging it in a draw out the way 
Sorry davythree can't answer your question hopefully you will find a supplier able to fit a dumb meter for you 

matelodave

Why does the type of meter matter - its the same leccy or gas that comes through it so why should it matter whether its smart, dumb, green yellow or red.

Suppliers are being fined if they don't fit smart meters and the way they are encouraging their customers is to either make them pay and/or make the cheaper tariffs conditional on having one.

You choice of course but If you really want a dumb meter then be prepared to pay for the privilege and don't moan about it. (just my opinion you understand)

BedrockFred

matelodave said:

Why does the type of meter matter - its the same leccy or gas that comes through it so why should it matter whether its smart, dumb, green yellow or red.

Suppliers are being fined if they don't fit smart meters and the way they are encouraging their customers is to either make them pay and/or make the cheaper tariffs conditional on having one.

You choice of course but If you really want a dumb meter then be prepared to pay for the privilege and don't moan about it. (just my opinion you understand)

LOL there are plenty of "cheap tariff's" using a dumb meter and a smart meter does nothing for a customer no advantage at all it's no inconvenience giving your supplier a reading monthly 
Smart meters arnt that smart at all.....

davythree

matelodave said:

Why does the type of meter matter - its the same leccy or gas that comes through it so why should it matter whether its smart, dumb, green yellow or red.

Suppliers are being fined if they don't fit smart meters and the way they are encouraging their customers is to either make them pay and/or make the cheaper tariffs conditional on having one.

You choice of course but If you really want a dumb meter then be prepared to pay for the privilege and don't moan about it. (just my opinion you understand)

Thanks for your helpful input!! But it’s a good point, what does it matter which meter I use? So why should they charge me if it’s just the same? And why are they being fined for not installing them? Makes you wonder...

spiro

davythree said:

matelodave said:

Why does the type of meter matter - its the same leccy or gas that comes through it so why should it matter whether its smart, dumb, green yellow or red.

Suppliers are being fined if they don't fit smart meters and the way they are encouraging their customers is to either make them pay and/or make the cheaper tariffs conditional on having one.

You choice of course but If you really want a dumb meter then be prepared to pay for the privilege and don't moan about it. (just my opinion you understand)

Thanks for your helpful input!! But it’s a good point, what does it matter which meter I use? So why should they charge me if it’s just the same? And why are they being fined for not installing them? Makes you wonder...

The government are trtying to get all properties to have smart meters and not not meeting their targets for installing them. As this is a money saying website, have a smart meter and save yourself £120.

BedrockFred

The government are trtying to get all properties to have smart meters and not not meeting their targets for installing them. As this is a money saying website, have a smart meter and save yourself £120.

What does that even mean??

matelodave

davythree said:

matelodave said:

Why does the type of meter matter - its the same leccy or gas that comes through it so why should it matter whether its smart, dumb, green yellow or red.

Suppliers are being fined if they don't fit smart meters and the way they are encouraging their customers is to either make them pay and/or make the cheaper tariffs conditional on having one.

You choice of course but If you really want a dumb meter then be prepared to pay for the privilege and don't moan about it. (just my opinion you understand)

Thanks for your helpful input!! But it’s a good point, what does it matter which meter I use? So why should they charge me if it’s just the same? And why are they being fined for not installing them? Makes you wonder...

It's not just the same to them. Most suppliers wont be stocking many (if any) non-smart meters so they'd have to install a secondhand or refurbed one.

There's no advantage to them to come out on your whim for a dumb meter, but there is if you have a smart meter - it adds to their tally of smart installs and integrates better into their billing processes so you'll have find a supplier who will do it for nowt, pay whatever the supplier charges or stay with a paygo. 

Even the smaller suppliers are having their bits squeezed to install smart meters and their licence conditions oblige them to get up to speed with the data Communications Company to implement their use and OFGEM have threatened to impose sanctions and fines on those who aren't getting on with it. https://www.current-news.co.uk/news/ofgem-threatens-to-strip-nine-suppliers-of-their-licenses-over-failure-to-join-dcc

Interestingly the standard Standard Licence Conditions prohibit the imposition of a cost to install a smart meter but not any other type AFAIK

As I said your choice

BedrockFred

That link is over a year old
This from Which

"The government has pushed back the deadline for the smart meter rollout until 2024, and you do have the right to refuse a smart meter if you don't want one. 

Energy companies have been asked to take 'all reasonable steps' to install smart meters in every home. 

If it hasn't already, your energy supplier will contact you between now and 2024 to arrange an installation. But remember that you can still say no to having a smart meter installed.

If you really don't want a smart meter, make this clear to your supplier and they may be able to set up a smart meter to work in 'dumb' mode, with all the communications switched off."

So get a dumb smart meter