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Does the government know when you change address? Re housing benefit

SimonStevens1
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edited 6 December 2020 at 9:59AM in Benefits & tax credits
I am thinking about moving flat to get away from nasty people. 
But I dont want to interrupt the flow of housing benefit, can I just move and not tell them and will it still keep getting paid in as per normal?
Or is the government alerted somehow? When you switch property? And then they stop it? How do they know?

The housing benefit would be paid to a new landlord and is the same amount 


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  • tacpot12
    tacpot12 Posts: 9,551 Forumite
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    edited 6 December 2020 at 10:21AM
    You can't not tell them; you are required to tell them as a condition of receiving the benefit. They will get to know because you will have to ask them to change the name of the landlord, and you will have to tell them of your change of address if you want to receive mail about other benefits, especially if you receive Council Tax Reduction. (I assume you are receiving other benefits).

    I can't see why your Housing Benefit should be interrupted providing you are moving within the same local authority; you can even have HB on two properties for up to four weeks to avoid a gap, providing that there was no way to avoid this.  See here: Claiming benefits for 2 homes - Shelter England 
    Fear of violence is specifically mentioned in this advice. 
    The comments I post are my personal opinion. While I try to check everything is correct before posting, I can and do make mistakes, so always try to check official information sources before relying on my posts.
  • poppy12345
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    When i last moved house it took my local council just over 2 weeks to sort my housing benefit out. I know all local councils are different but you have no other option but to tell them.
  • Alice_Holt
    Alice_Holt Posts: 6,094 Forumite
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    edited 6 December 2020 at 12:39PM
    If you don't tell the Housing Benefit dept of your local council, how would they know to pay your new landlord?
    If you don't tell the Housing Benefit dept of your local council, they would surely continue to make direct payments to your old landlord.
    If you don't tell the Housing Benefit dept of your local council, you would soon be in rent arrears with your new landlord. 
    If you don't tell the Housing Benefit dept of your local council, you would then face homelessness.

    https://www.gov.uk/housing-benefit/report-a-change-of-circumstances

    I assume you are moving to another property that pays council tax to the same council ?   
    If not you will have to claim Universal Credit to get help with housing costs.



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  • KatrinaWaves
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    Of course you have to tell them. 

    What do you think happens if someone else moves in and claims for rent help at your old address? They just blindly pay two people to live at the same address and never question it?

  • calcotti
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    edited 6 December 2020 at 2:50PM
    If you don't tell the Housing Benefit dept of your local council, how would they know to pay your new landlord?
    If you don't tell the Housing Benefit dept of your local council, they would surely continue to make direct payments to your old landlord.
    Housing Benefit may of course be being paid to the OP rather than their landlord.

    OP, if you don't advise you local authority of a relevant change you will be committing benefit fraud. 
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Some rules may be different in other parts of UK.
  • Alice_Holt
    Alice_Holt Posts: 6,094 Forumite
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    edited 6 December 2020 at 3:26PM
    calcotti said:
    If you don't tell the Housing Benefit dept of your local council, how would they know to pay your new landlord?
    If you don't tell the Housing Benefit dept of your local council, they would surely continue to make direct payments to your old landlord.
    Housing Benefit may of course be being paid to the OP rather than their landlord.

    OP, if you don't advise you local authority of a relevant change you will be committing benefit fraud. 
           Yes, that was an assumption of my behalf. 

         I was trying to emphasis
         - that claimants should really be aware of the obligations that are placed on them when in receipt of benefits:
        - and what can go wrong when these obligations are breached (such as not informing relevant change of circumstances).

          Ignoring basic obligations can lead to some very, very difficult outcomes for claimants. 
    Alice Holt Forest situated some 4 miles south of Farnham forms the most northerly gateway to the South Downs National Park.
  • calcotti
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    Alice_Holt said:    I was trying to emphasis 
         - that claimants should really be aware of the obligations that are placed on them when in receipt of benefits:
        - and what can go wrong when these obligations are breached (such as not informing relevant change of circumstances).

          Ignoring basic obligations can lead to some very, very difficult outcomes for claimants. 
    Completely agree. 
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Some rules may be different in other parts of UK.
  • SimonStevens1
    SimonStevens1 Posts: 25 Forumite
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    edited 7 December 2020 at 8:42AM
    The money is paid directly to me not my landlord it just goes into my current account, so no name would need to be changed , it would just keep being paid in monthly like it always has been 
  • Ok so its fraud with big consequences 
  • poppy12345
    poppy12345 Posts: 18,985 Forumite
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    The money is paid directly to me not my landlord it just goes into my current account, so no name would need to be changed , it would just keep being paid in monthly like it always has been 

    As has already been advised, when you move house you need to report the changes that you're no longer living in your current house. Then start a new claiming for your new house. If you're moving to a new local council then you will need to claim Universal Credit.
    All changes must be reported, as stated on the bottom of all letters from your local council and DWP. If you don't report it, it could be classed as benefit fraud.
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