Neighbours objection to planning permission

saqibm786

Hi All,

Hoping some kind persons on here can offer some planning advice.

We’ve applied for planning permission on a property we’re in the middle of purchasing (applied in advance of completing as we’re currently in temp. accommodation so hoping to get on the with build quickly).

We’ve had a neighbour put in some objections and not sure what that means in terms of our application or if it means it will get rejected now?

I’ve linked below the application drawings and the objections it would be great to get your thoughts on likelihood?

Drawing: [ATTACHED - removed by Forum Team]

Objection: [ATTACHED - removed by Forum Team]

Other useful info:

- The house is in terrible state – current owners have moved into a care home so we’re looking at a full renovation. Garden is significantly over-grown.

- Our front garden is half grass half driveway. We’re looking to convert into full driveway – identical to what both our neighbours have done – including the objectors.

- The ground floor windows complained about look directly at an existing boundary wall between the two properties – rather than into their garden/lounge as they’ve stated (it would do if there was no wall in between).

- The objector has done a double story side extension similar to ourselves (many years ago)

- We discussed our plans with the neighbours before putting the offer in on the house and unfortunately at that time they raised no concerns.

Just looking to see how much weight these objections might have and whether we should be re-considering the property. It concerns us as the objection is so formal and done by a planning consultant!

Really stressful time for us right now so super appreciative of any advice!!

Thanks,

Saqib

DiddyDavies

I won't comment on the question but I will say one thing. You should immediately remove the 2 attachments as not only do they contain an abundance of your personal details, they also contain details of the neighbour who has raised the objection and with such details being shown, it's highly likely that they will be added to all sorts of mailing lists (both genuine and scam related).
Apart from that , by publishing the letter in full, you may well be acting illegally.

Mickey666

Planning applications are usually public and any objections received are usually published on the council websites in my experience, so I don’t see how copying something that’s already in the public domain can be illegal. 

If applications and objections are not in the public domain how can anyone comment on them, which is the whole point of the process.  This is why site notices are posted and adverts placed in local newspapers giving details of the application number so that interested parties are pointed to the full details of the planning proposals.
The last thing we want is secretive planning applications and secretive objections.

Homer_home

DiddyDavies said:

I won't comment on the question but I will say one thing. You should immediately remove the 2 attachments as not only do they contain an abundance of your personal details, they also contain details of the neighbour who has raised the objection and with such details being shown, it's highly likely that they will be added to all sorts of mailing lists (both genuine and scam related).
Apart from that , by publishing the letter in full, you may well be acting illegally.

For the avoidance of doubt can you point out the exact law that the op has broken by publishing the letter in full ?

DiddyDavies

Homer_home said:

For the avoidance of doubt can you point out the exact law that the op has broken by publishing the letter in full ?

It could well be breach of copyright.

If the full details are normally shown on the planning application website then that's fair enough regarding the OP showing the details on here but with regards to possibly breaking the law, there is still breach of copyright to consider.
Posting details from council and government websites is normally permitted but only if you state where the info was obtained from and who the copyright holder is and private and personal data is normally explicitly excluded from the right of publication. 
A minor and fairly inconsequential offence I agree, but it could still apply. 

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DiddyDavies said:

Homer_home said:

For the avoidance of doubt can you point out the exact law that the op has broken by publishing the letter in full ?

It could well be breach of copyright.

If the full details are normally shown on the planning application website then that's fair enough regarding the OP showing the details on here but with regards to possibly breaking the law, there is still breach of copyright to consider.
Posting details from council and government websites is normally permitted but only if you state where the info was obtained from and who the copyright holder is and private and personal data is normally explicitly excluded from the right of publication. 
A minor and fairly inconsequential offence I agree, but it could still apply. 

That's hysterical 😂🤣😂🤣

FreeBear

I'm just seeing a typical post war (1950s ?) estate with a mix of housing of no architectural significance or value. A number of properties have had extensions impacting on the kerb side appearance, including (but not limited to) the neighbour. Addressing some of the objections...

Windows - Yes, a valid concern, and any windows to the side should be non-opening and use obscured glass.

Parking - I see several cars using the grass verge (which is quite substantial) and also the road adjacent to the open green. You appear to have enough space to squeeze four cars on to the drive, although it would be a juggling act to move just one parked adjacent to the house. Where do visitors currently park when driving to the property or any of the others in the close.

DiddyDavies

_shel said:

DiddyDavies said:

Homer_home said:

For the avoidance of doubt can you point out the exact law that the op has broken by publishing the letter in full ?

It could well be breach of copyright.

If the full details are normally shown on the planning application website then that's fair enough regarding the OP showing the details on here but with regards to possibly breaking the law, there is still breach of copyright to consider.
Posting details from council and government websites is normally permitted but only if you state where the info was obtained from and who the copyright holder is and private and personal data is normally explicitly excluded from the right of publication. 
A minor and fairly inconsequential offence I agree, but it could still apply. 

That's hysterical 😂🤣😂🤣

Hysterical maybe but still correct.
This is the copyright permission for the planning portal where the information concerned can be found:
Open Government Licence (nationalarchives.gov.uk)

You are free to:

• copy, publish, distribute and transmit the Information;
• adapt the Information;
• exploit the Information commercially and non-commercially for example, by combining it with other Information, or by including it in your own product or application.

You must (where you do any of the above):

• acknowledge the source of the Information in your product or application by including or linking to any attribution statement specified by the Information Provider(s) and, where possible, provide a link to this licence;

•  Exemptions

  This licence does not cover:

  • personal data in the Information;

I know that I wouldn't want my personal details posted for all to see on a public forum and I'm sure that there are a lot of people who fee the same way as me.

Doozergirl

Neighbours don't really influence the outcomes of planning application.  They're allowed to object, but objecting in itself doesn't impact anything. 

If they point out something relevant that the planning officer hasn't already considered, then it might influence a decision, but this is what planning officers do all day long, so they're going to know their own policies. 

I don't live in your area, but I can see that it's pretty sensitively designed to meet the local guidelines where I live, so I suspect yours are similar.  Obscured non-opening windows at first floor level and stepped back a metre from the boundary with the first floor even further away.  

I wouldn't worry too much.   I don't think even their demands to mitigate impact are that reasonable.     The flue is reasonably placed, the garage probably isn't big enough for a car anyway (but you're adding more spaces) and no builder in this country works 9-5pm.  We need the earlier daylight!  Even central london doesn't have restrictions that stringent and allow longer hours and working on Saturday mornings. 

neilmcl

The council's planning committee can only take into account material planning considerations when looking at objections and now only those that have a realistic chance of being upheld should planning be rejected and goes onto appeal.

ic

I'm in the process of buying a house which has planning permission granted (gained by current owners).  It had a letter of objection from the next door neighbour, with a big list of reasons/concerns.  One was people might stand in the garden and smoke!?  It was clearly ignored by the planners, and granted regardless.