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CCJ Advice Please!!

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vman
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edited 30 November 2020 at 11:03PM in Parking tickets, fines & parking
A few months ago, I received a private parking fine that I felt I was in a very strong position to defend so I let the notices continue to arrive expecting one of two outcomes, either they give up or we go to court (I was perfectly happy to defend in court).
Unfortunately, I didn’t see the court letter so my non-reply essentially defaulted to me being found in error in my absence (not surprisingly TBF) and have now received a county court demand for payment.

My question is, does this now count as a CCJ on my credit history? As much as I would like to defend myself against the awful honey-trap private parking company, my credit record is more important to me so would pay if needs be.

Is this a "black mark" CCJ? What are my options?

Thanks in advance.
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  • sourcrates
    sourcrates Posts: 31,510 Ambassador
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    Yes it’s a CCJ, I’m going to move your post to the parking forum where the boffins there can help you move forward.
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  • Johnersh
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    I struggle to see why the explanatory notes regarding how to make payment aren't clear.

    What is the date of the judgment. You get 28 days to pay before an unpaid judgment debt is registered for 6 yrs. 

    https://www.gov.uk/county-court-judgments-ccj-for-debt 
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 1 December 2020 at 10:32PM
    Is this a "black mark" CCJ? What are my options?
    Read the NEWBIES THREAD post #2, the section about setting aside a scam PPC CCJ (no link given, it's at the top of this forum and my signature tells everyone where to click at the top of any page, to get to page one of the parking forum, to read it).
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • nosferatu1001
    nosferatu1001 Posts: 12,961 Forumite
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    How did you fail to see the brown envelope definitely from an official source court form?!

    before embarking on a costly set aside, which so far you've !!!!!! alll chance of success at as you ignored a claim firm (yes, you did, from the courts perspective ) 

    tell us the date of judgement. Hopefully you've been a bit more timely here...
  • D_P_Dance
    D_P_Dance Posts: 11,591 Forumite
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     I didn’t see the court letter

    Could you expand on this please?  
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • vman
    vman Posts: 74 Forumite
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    Is this a "black mark" CCJ? What are my options?
    Read the NEWBIES THREAD post #2, the section about setting aside a scam PPC CCJ (no link given, it's at the top of this forum and my signature tells everyone where to click at the top of any page, top get to page one of the parking forum, to read it).

    Sorry but I just don't understand what I'm reading there, there is so much information its difficult to absorb - I can't even work out which one is post #2 - Is it the one dated "12 January 2014 at 7:42PM edited 19 November at 11:08PM"?

    I'm sure it's not a scam CCJ (and private-eye is the claimant btw). It's from "County Court Business Centre" (Northampton), which appears to be a private company that administers genuine county court business but has loads of dubious Google reviews - most saying its a scam court but they do issue CCJs. I'm very confused.
  • Redx
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    edited 1 December 2020 at 12:40PM
    It's a government office , like the DVLA , civil service , set up as a one stop shop for online court claims

    It is not a County Court , that is a different address in Northampton

    Despite people asking for post numbers to be brought back , mse have failed to do so , nothing to do with us

    Private eye is a magazine , so not the claimant , you mean Parking Eye , totally different business

    If you ignored a correctly addressed government letter in brown paper , you won't get a set aside

    What date is on the CCJ notification , because you only have 28 days or so to pay ?
  • KeithP
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    edited 1 December 2020 at 12:45PM
    vman said:
    ...private-eye is the claimant btw...

    Really?? Please check that.    ;)


    vman said:
    It's from "County Court Business Centre" (Northampton), which appears to be a private company that administers genuine county court business but has loads of dubious Google reviews - most saying its a scam court but they do issue CCJs.
    Wake up!!

    Google County Court Business Centre.

    Look at all the .gov.uk webpages listed.
    It's a Government office, just like the DVLA is a Government Office.
  • vman
    vman Posts: 74 Forumite
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    Johnersh said:
    I struggle to see why the explanatory notes regarding how to make payment aren't clear.

    What is the date of the judgment. You get 28 days to pay before an unpaid judgment debt is registered for 6 yrs. 

    https://www.gov.uk/county-court-judgments-ccj-for-debt 

    "I struggle to see..." why the tone? If I wasn't struggling with this I wouldn't have posted. I'm finding the whole thing a complex minefield, I'm finding it quite stressful.

    The link you provided is for the "proper" county court, mine is from "county court business centre" which appears to be a private company who handles their administration. It is interesting but does seem to imply the 28 days is quite optional. There is a comment "if you pay in full within one month you can ask the court to cancel entry into the register" - this doesn't sound like a slam dunk, and there are no instructions on how to ask the court to set this aside.
  • KeithP
    KeithP Posts: 41,296 Forumite
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    vman said:
    Johnersh said:
    I struggle to see why the explanatory notes regarding how to make payment aren't clear.

    What is the date of the judgment. You get 28 days to pay before an unpaid judgment debt is registered for 6 yrs. 

    https://www.gov.uk/county-court-judgments-ccj-for-debt 

    It is interesting but does seem to imply the 28 days is quite optional. There is a comment "if you pay in full within one month you can ask the court to cancel entry into the register" - this doesn't sound like a slam dunk, and there are no instructions on how to ask the court to set this aside.

    Yes it is optional.

    If you choose to take the option, then, as stated, you can ask the court to cancel the entry in the register.

    If you choose not to take that option, the entry will remain on the register for six years.

    Your choice.
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