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Coupon-mad

You can safely post it and forget the DR hearing.   You can still be confident and will get a different Judge at the hearing.

At DR hearings it's more like Mediation (useless for parking cases) and they have solicitors trying to get Defendants to settle, and often it seems the solicitors are Deputy District Judges who are not used to parking cases and don't get it.

PPL cases are pretty much beaten by people here all the time!

Umkomaas

It's almost predictable now that in DRs the defendant will be given very negative odds from the Judge, yet we've yet to see any correlation between them and actual hearing outcomes becoming a pattern. 

Just get on with the next stage, nothing to lose. If you'd capitulated at the feet of this Judge you'd have had to have coughed for the full whack the PPC is trying to claim. Even if you lost at the forthcoming hearing, the Judge is almost certain to knock off all their attempted unlawful add-on charges, so the cost to you will be much less than you'd have paid today. 

uksniper

Thank you - link to my WS and exhibits: https://1drv.ms/b/s!Ar6JO1O_iqL4hEHU4wardAVXSTMg?e=JIkVWO

I do have the full bundle which includes claimants statement and evidence if it would be of use?

uksniper

Umkomaas said:

Even if you lost at the forthcoming hearing, the Judge is almost certain to knock off all their attempted unlawful add-on charges, so the cost to you will be much less than you'd have paid today. 

I was basically told if I didn't settle today it would double by the hearing. I hope you're right

Coupon-mad

Add a skeleton argument before the actual hearing, appending Excel v Wilkinson and the other transcript from Recorder Cohen QC, as per the thread I started yesterday about these authorities. 

We assume you are reading the forum and have read my thread?  No link provided to threads that are current.

Umkomaas

uksniper said:

Umkomaas said:

Even if you lost at the forthcoming hearing, the Judge is almost certain to knock off all their attempted unlawful add-on charges, so the cost to you will be much less than you'd have paid today. 

I was basically told if I didn't settle today it would double by the hearing. I hope you're right

How much were they asking for 'today'?

uksniper

Coupon-mad said:

Add a skeleton argument before the actual hearing, appending Excel v Wilkinson and the other transcript from Recorder Cohen QC, as per the thread I started yesterday about these authorities. 

We assume you are reading the forum and have read my thread?  No link provided to threads that are current.

Thanks, I'll do this and post on here for review.

Umkomaas said:

How much were they asking for 'today'?

I think it was just in excess of £260. The claimant didn't participate them-self but sent an advocate and I believe was asking for their fees to be included also.

Redx

It is standard practice that an advocate asks for their own fees , but in almost all of these  cases , as long as the defendant has not been unreasonable , the extra charges are refused

su51_2

I have also had a Notice of Allocation that states 'Before the claim is listed for hearing,the judge has ordered that a preliminary hearing should take place '  and...'you will receive a BT Meetme call between  9am and 11am '.
Is there anyway l can get out of this, for one after reading how badly the original poster came out in theirs on this thread , but also because l have awful signal problems in my home and area and my workplace is a building site out in the sticks so no better(even if it was practical to take the call at work  )   I constantly get cut off in calls or they break up /crackle regularly. I literally have to stand at bottom of my garden or perch on a window ledge at front of house to have any chance of staying connected and even then if l move my head off it goes.  I recently lost an NHS case l am sure at least in part due to the constant failure of the conference call which was very distracting and which l wish hadn't agreed to.. Not to mention l will lose two days (self employed)at work if l 'attend' this as well as the main court hearing later on.
I've followed this forum all the way through all the different stages to the letter, but now feel like throwing in the towel and just making them (Gladstones for ES Parking) an offer of one half days net pay being around £60 as it just seems be getting more and more complicated and as l say anything done by phone here is a nightmare.

Umkomaas

@su51_2 - you need to start a thread of your own, because jumping in on another poster's thread will result in confusion for us, for you and for the thread's originator. 

I presume this is in regard to your previous (now closed) Spinningfields thread from over a year ago. You've lost valuable advice time by not keeping that one ticking over by keeping us informed of progress. 

Gladstones are highly unlikely to accept any offer short of the amount demanded.