Tier 2 Childcare

BigMac79

I am unclear on the new rules for Tier 2 areas.
Gov website says In tier 2:

• you must not socialise with anyone you do not live with or who is not in your support bubble in any indoor setting, whether at home or in a public place

But then in the exemptions it says 

Exemptions from gatherings limits in all tiers

• as part of a single household, or a support bubble

• for work or providing voluntary or charitable services, including in other people’s homes

• for childcare, education or training – meaning education and training provided as part of a formal curriculum

So can my mum look after my son and have him overnight?

K_S

@BigMac79 Your scenario would be exempt under the "Childcare bubble" that you are allowed to form with one other household.

Similar to you, we have formed a Childcare bubble with my partner's brother's family so we are allowed to drop off our kids at their's (and vice versa) irrespective of the Tier.

Tbh, the rules have a whole load of exemptions, and to put it crudely are impossible to enforce.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/making-a-childcare-bubble-with-another-household

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What a childcare bubble is

A childcare bubble is where one household links with one other household to provide informal childcare to a child or children aged 13 or under. They can provide the childcare in either or both of the homes from the 2 households. ‘Informal’ childcare means it is unpaid and unregistered.

All adults in both households must agree to this arrangement.

The childcare can be provided where necessary in any location – public or private, indoors or outdoors.

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BigMac79

Thanks. My brother also uses my parents for informal childcare. Do the rules prevent us both from using them??

Diamandis

Yes, the childcare bubble is between two households, so your brother being from a different household wouldn't be part of that. 

BigMac79

So my parents can form a childcare bubble with me and another with my brother?

K_S

BigMac79 said:

So my parents can form a childcare bubble with me and another with my brother?

@BigMac79

Unfortunately, from what I can see it isn't clear if your parents can form one childcare bubble with your family AND another childcare bubble with your brother's family.

unforeseen

My understanding is that a household can only be part of one bubble otherwise you end up with a chain, not an isolated bubble

Mrsn

The bubble as I understand it should be with one other household only otherwise it leaves it wide open to abuse.