No email confirmation from CWF1 form?

dude7691

Hi There,

Just registered for self assessment via the CWF1 form on HMRC's site I'm quite late but I rang HMRC and they said the UTR should be there within 3 weeks. Is this generally about right? I know the deadline for submitting a tax return is 31st January, but of course can't do this without my UTR. I also didn't receive an email confirmation after submitting despite providing my email, is this normal? 

Also for the question "capacity in which you are completing this form" I put 'self-employed' rather than sole trader or individual. I do surveys, website testing and transcription for sites online as a non-formal worker so I think this was the right selection. Wasn't sure what individual constituted, and as far as I know sole trader means having a business. Although there's no specific definition as far as I can see, as I'm still essentially selling a service but I don't have a business. Is that correct? If not, will it matter much?

Thank you  

[Deleted User]

The capacity would be ‘proprietor’ or ‘owner’ of what is the business.

dude7691

[Deleted User] said:

The capacity would be ‘proprietor’ or ‘owner’ of what is the business.

Hi there,
I didn't put either of those because I thought I didn't have a business? I use sites like Usertesting, Populus Live e.t.c and I earn more than £1k a year when you combine them, hence why I have to do this. I wouldn't therefore class myself as a business owner, as I'm simply a user of these sites. I might be wrong, I'm really new to this but yeah, I didn't feel that was the correct terminology. 

[Deleted User]

Honestly - it really doesn’t matter. However, when it comes to declaring the income, you are self-employed. The business is as you have described. When did you start?

unholyangel

Self employed & sole trader are one and the same. It means you're carrying on a trade yourself, rather than perhaps as an employee on behalf of a limited company. You are providing goods, services or both. 

Individual would be for those who are individuals (not limited companies for example) but not self employed. So that would cover employees under PAYE claiming more than £2500 in expenses, someone with more than £10k in dividend income etc. 

If you are providing testing etc for a fee then you do have a business or trade if you prefer, you just don't have a company. 

dude7691

[Deleted User] said:

Honestly - it really doesn’t matter. However, when it comes to declaring the income, you are self-employed. The business is as you have described. When did you start?

I started in November of 2019, after losing my job due to a foot injury in October of that year. Thanks for clearing that up, I'm glad to know putting "self-employed" won't have caused an issue. Thank you  

dude7691

unholyangel said:

Self employed & sole trader are one and the same. It means you're carrying on a trade yourself, rather than perhaps as an employee on behalf of a limited company. You are providing goods, services or both. 

Individual would be for those who are individuals (not limited companies for example) but not self employed. So that would cover employees under PAYE claiming more than £2500 in expenses, someone with more than £10k in dividend income etc. 

If you are providing testing etc for a fee then you do have a business or trade if you prefer, you just don't have a company. 

That's great to know, thanks for clearing that up. 

And yes, I didn't put individual as I thought it meant gains similar to that. For example profits on trading, dividends as you say. But great to have that reiterated. 

Yes that's right, I do it for a limited company (usertesting) in that case, but I'm not a formal employee, and I work at the rate set by the site, which is $10/test (which converted to GBP is £7.25) and they take like 20-30 mins each. So roughly £15/hour. My income is very variable though due to availability of websites to test. Long and short of it though is that I make in excess of the trading allowance doing this. £1950 from Nov 19 to Apr 20 and then just over £2k since Apr. It's very much a part time gig but a good one to have, except having to submit this tax return of course Guess I'm learning though